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jps · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 6940 Location: Denmark

I can understand the reviewers get bored or worse from the influx of bad photos.

BUT since the business model is built on crowdsourcing and the agency wants it so.
There will be bad photos.
Price policy and all.

The reviewers should know that, and stop whining or get a job in an art gallery.

I feel kind of insulted as a photographer when the reviewers rant on me.
For of course I try to get a volume of photos into the database since its what the business model calls for. Volume.

Im sure the reviewers also feel insulted when photographers rant on them.
We shouldnt rant on eachother... we are both just doing our job. Which is to present the world to a volume of pictures.

karimala · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 2116 Location: Sacramento, CA

Yes, there will be bad photos...but bad photos in volume does get very frustrating for reviewers. During my time as a reviewer, I looked at about 150,000 images out of which 50,000 were rejected. That's 50,000 bad images...and that's a lot.

One of the reasons why I wrote my rant back in 2007 was to get people to think before they upload. Contributors get upset when queue times slow down and often think something is wrong with the company rather than looking at their own uploading habits. When a contributor sends in 441 similar snapshots of the Grand Canyon (half of which are motion blurred), that becomes a problem for everyone, not just the reviewers. Multiply that by several contributors at one time, and the problem grows for everyone. What these particular folks don't realize is that the reviewer's job isn't to choose the best images from a batch of 441 similar snapshots taken from a handful of vantage points...that's their job, and by not doing their job, they are making things difficult on everyone...contributors, reviewers and companies alike. Bad photos and oversized batches cost the companies money and the many quality reviewers who leave due to burnout, and they prevent contributors from receiving timely reviews.

mreco · Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Posts: 339 Location: UK

the answer is to limit the daily upload allowance, if someone is abusing the rules, ie 10 images all the same, from 1 degree difference, lower thier daily allowance, if someone is submitting good images, up thier allowance. Other sites do that, as you submit and are more trusted (acceptance ratio), your limit goes up

jps · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 6940 Location: Denmark

Limiting the daily upload limits the business, which is about wolume.

And to the reviewer:
You are not burned out by the contributers, but by the business model.

rinder99 · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:31 am

Boy, karin, "Thats the nail on the head" if I ever heard it. sometimes reviewing is a lot of fun, sometimes it's like having your teeth drilled but I gotta say the folks that go on vacation and then upload every shot no matter how bad is the worst. And you know they didn't even look at them. That makes ya wanna shoot someone.But then there are those Rare times when a newbie just knocks your socks off and submits stuff that is so fresh and unique it blows you away.

Thats why I love the comment "Theres nothing left to shoot" it should be Theres nothing left for me to shoot or copy because I have no imagination.

Also, Strange how cycles go, 3 years ago Noise was the big deal, Now it's focus and focus is the one thing that is totally user error.Can't blame the camera on that one. LOL.

I'll say this again Because I can...Reviewing, I think Is Probably one of the most Important Jobs in this business from the sites side and the future of this business, They are the last Wall to get through, I think there should be a prerequisite for the job of some sort to be qualified and I also think they should be paid more and make it more Like an actual Job. In the early days some sites didn't even pay, it was considered an Honor. LOL!!!!!!!!!

karimala · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 2116 Location: Sacramento, CA

dole · Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 98 Location: Michigan

jps · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 6940 Location: Denmark

Now why hasnt ss changed that then?

keki · Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 35

hahaha it's the little things that make you laugh and crack at the same time!! however this actually really helped!! thanks :)

karimala · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 2116 Location: Sacramento, CA

jps · Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 6940 Location: Denmark

rinder99 · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:38 am

There used to be a warning system In Place.

webthrower · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:39 pm

Thanks for the read. I'm sure most of the stuff reviewers get are pretty boring and bad, but I'm sure there's some amazing stuff too that makes up for it.

tobkatrina · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:32 pm