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mmepaquin
Joined: 30 Dec 2005
Posts: 203
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:59 am
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| leapdragon wrote: | | mmepaquin wrote: | | leapdragon wrote: | | mmepaquin wrote: | Did you miss the "... when she could do something else" part?
Cheryl |
No. I don't miss anything. |
So why bother with the bills monologue? Of course we all have bills. The point is why spend ten hours reviewing photos, when the original poster said the reviewer is a great photographer. So spend ten hours making photos. |
So long as people can live doing what they love best, they will do it. If they don't do what they love best, it is safe to assume that they can't yet live doing it.
If you're unwilling to stipulate to such an assumption, then you must instead be assuming that they're too stupid to do what they love best despite themselves.
I suppose some may be, but I'm certainly not. |
Yes, that's it....
Rolling eyes! |
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mwgriffin
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:11 pm
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so, since i'm waiting for my 10 initial posts to be reviewed - i admit that i'm a tad bit worried. i did think about alot the the items mentioned, but luckily submited some that weren't. i have no idea what to take pictures of, i take a thousand and only like ten. meanwhile, i guess i will leave the screwdrivers in the toolbox :-) |
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shaithis
Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Posts: 1806
Location: Queen City
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:13 pm
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What a great article, It really should be required reading to anyone starting out. Heck this should be sent to everyone submitting pictures. Maybe at the login screen SS should post a "what not to submit" section. It would be a great laugh and probably cut down on the crap reviewers have to wade through. I learned alot today. Thanks Laurin! Great thread! |
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elenathewise
Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Posts: 118
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:13 pm
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| mwgriffin wrote: | | so, since i'm waiting for my 10 initial posts to be reviewed - i admit that i'm a tad bit worried. i did think about alot the the items mentioned, but luckily submited some that weren't. i have no idea what to take pictures of, i take a thousand and only like ten. meanwhile, i guess i will leave the screwdrivers in the toolbox :-) |
See what I mean?... |
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Pete Bax
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 1238
Location: Brighton England
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:22 pm
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That is a far better eplanation from the reviewer but can I ask a question. Just how do you think it makes a beginner feel? It is exactly this attitude that causes these stupid outbursts on the posts. I think SS is very tollerant with beginners or I wouldn't have 1500 plus pictures on here and most of my learning comes from reviewers rejections and sales.
Most of my rejections now are for things I don't understand, like a snap shot for a picture no beginner could take? I think if this lady could use
some of her verbosity in explaining actually what the fault is with her rejections everyone would be a lot happier. I did write comedy for a short while and if that is her idea of comedy I would stick to reviewing. Pete |
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mrphoto
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 177
Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:51 pm
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How do you come up 7 keywords for an isolated white egg (3 keywords). Now we can't use the word background because every other photo already uses it. We can't use the word chicken because even thought the chicken laid it, it's not in the picture. Sometimes you just need a filler to get it to the reviewer. Instead of using words like tits or nude, might as well be related to the image. Am I wrong?
Maybe we should drop the need for seven words. I would even be willing to pay a professional worder to name, categorize and keyword my files for me. |
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ffranny
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 214
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connellyink
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 376
Location: MA
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:06 pm
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| ffranny wrote: | Guess what image I just sold?
Just goes to show.... |
...good images sell and that is a great image. :) |
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ffranny
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 214
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:06 pm
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| mrphoto wrote: | | I would even be willing to pay a professional worder to name, categorize and keyword my files for me. |
How much?
I might be interested. |
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harteex
Joined: 15 May 2005
Posts: 26
Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:15 pm
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| tinoni wrote: | | now I am afraid of submitting my pictures... afraid the reviewer may commit suicide! LOL |
Haha exactly my thoughts ;) |
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ffranny
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 214
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:17 pm
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| connellyink wrote: | | ffranny wrote: | Guess what image I just sold?
Just goes to show.... |
...good images sell and that is a great image. :) |
Thanks!
Oddly enough, a couple of my other strawberry shots are some of my better sellers. I think this is the first time that particular one has sold.
If anyone is interested, it's part of a series. I shot cherry tomatoes, radishes and broccoli florets in that same heart-shaped box. (The idea was heart, healthy, fruits and veggies, take care of the one you love -- or yourself, for the one you love.
While I'm at it, I want to say how much I appreciate the hard work the reviewers do. I don't always agree with their decisions, but I understand the constraints of the job.
I once had a similar job: I worked for a site that hosted online obituaries for newspapers. Families could post a "guestbook" online where people could write their condolences and remembrances of the deceased.
My job was to review these messages before we put them online. We were not allowed to change a word, a letter, a comma -- they went up unchanged or not at all. If you think people submit weird photos, you have no idea what kinds of weird condolence messages they send in!
The tricky part was deciding whether a message violated our standards -- no obscenity, no drug or crime references, nothing that might be offensive to the family. The first two are fairly easy to figure out. The third one was a killer. Who knows what offends someone you've never met?
The job drove me crazy. Fortunately, it turns out, I had one too many disagreements with my supervisors about what met their standards and what didn't, and they let me go.
So reviewers, I do feel your pain. |
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shaz
Joined: 21 Aug 2005
Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:28 pm
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RIP strawberries ;) |
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lessthanempty
Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 1046
Location: планета земля
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:44 pm
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| mrphoto wrote: | | How do you come up 7 keywords for an isolated white egg (3 keywords) |
breakfast, egg, hard, "hard boiled", oval, ovoid, protection, protein, round, shape, shell, thin, white, etc., etc.
Keywording requires a creative and vast vocabulary, and just like everything else it demands practice (not a stupid thesaurus). |
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margaret
Joined: 01 Jul 2005
Posts: 1451
Location: Lancashire, U.K.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:48 pm
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Just get out there and shoot pictures,
take the best picture that you can,
enjoy....
'one man's meat is another man's poison' as some one far more clever than me once said.....................
Last edited by margaret on Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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annieannie
Joined: 06 Aug 2005
Posts: 705
Location: AnneKitzmanPhotography.com
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:48 pm
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| mrphoto wrote: | How do you come up 7 keywords for an isolated white egg (3 keywords). Now we can't use the word background because every other photo already uses it. We can't use the word chicken because even thought the chicken laid it, it's not in the picture. Sometimes you just need a filler to get it to the reviewer. Instead of using words like tits or nude, might as well be related to the image. Am I wrong?
Maybe we should drop the need for seven words. I would even be willing to pay a professional worder to name, categorize and keyword my files for me. |
MrPhoto ...
To describe an isolated white egg:
egg, embryo, ova, ovum, roe, shell, food, protein, isolated, one, alone, lone, single, abandoned, anomalous, apart, deserted, detached, forsaken, lonely, lonesome, secluded, segregated, sequestered, single, solitary, unaccompanied, oval, ellipsoidal, elliptic, elliptical, elongated, oblong, ovate, ovoid, rounded, white,
There are probably more but I have laundry that needs to be done ... I use a thesaurus, it makes the keywording really easy. Annie |
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