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rixie
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:22 am
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| dmvphotos wrote: | | rixie wrote: | | gep wrote: | | hi jane, try playing with the contrast of the images with the vapor trails to diminish the vapors. you can try to do it across the entire image or selectively with a feathered mask. |
Thanks Murray, I'll give that a try today. I tried several times yesterday to get the image together but Photoshop kept crashing and freezing up and, when I finally got it to work, I had streaks of light going off in every direction!
I figured I couldn't just leave out a few images from the sequence so, I guess the only way is individual editing before I merge them all together. |
I didn't do anything to get rid of the planes...I kind of liked them in the video, and for the composite shot once I did the "lighten" on each individual image (thanks Lorraine)...178 in total it seemed to look the way I wanted it to. I have not tried to submit it yet but I have saved it to work on a few other things.... |
I also think they would look fine on a video but on my still image, they went off in random directions and just created a distracting trail. Perhaps mine were a bit more obvious than your?
Anyhow, I'm editing each file to get rid of them!
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kourafas5
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 2119
Location: South Shore area,Ma
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:32 am
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| rixie wrote: | | dmvphotos wrote: | | rixie wrote: | | gep wrote: | | hi jane, try playing with the contrast of the images with the vapor trails to diminish the vapors. you can try to do it across the entire image or selectively with a feathered mask. |
Thanks Murray, I'll give that a try today. I tried several times yesterday to get the image together but Photoshop kept crashing and freezing up and, when I finally got it to work, I had streaks of light going off in every direction!
I figured I couldn't just leave out a few images from the sequence so, I guess the only way is individual editing before I merge them all together. |
I didn't do anything to get rid of the planes...I kind of liked them in the video, and for the composite shot once I did the "lighten" on each individual image (thanks Lorraine)...178 in total it seemed to look the way I wanted it to. I have not tried to submit it yet but I have saved it to work on a few other things.... |
I also think they would look fine on a video but on my still image, they went off in random directions and just created a distracting trail. Perhaps mine were a bit more obvious than your?
Anyhow, I'm editing each file to get rid of them! |
Jane, I had 3 planes that were coming down from top to bottom that were hideous, after I flattened the image I cloned them out. I didn't take too long but definetly easier than working on the individual images!!
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rixie
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 3446
Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:36 am
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| kourafas5 wrote: | | rixie wrote: | | dmvphotos wrote: | | rixie wrote: | | gep wrote: | | hi jane, try playing with the contrast of the images with the vapor trails to diminish the vapors. you can try to do it across the entire image or selectively with a feathered mask. |
Thanks Murray, I'll give that a try today. I tried several times yesterday to get the image together but Photoshop kept crashing and freezing up and, when I finally got it to work, I had streaks of light going off in every direction!
I figured I couldn't just leave out a few images from the sequence so, I guess the only way is individual editing before I merge them all together. |
I didn't do anything to get rid of the planes...I kind of liked them in the video, and for the composite shot once I did the "lighten" on each individual image (thanks Lorraine)...178 in total it seemed to look the way I wanted it to. I have not tried to submit it yet but I have saved it to work on a few other things.... |
I also think they would look fine on a video but on my still image, they went off in random directions and just created a distracting trail. Perhaps mine were a bit more obvious than your?
Anyhow, I'm editing each file to get rid of them! |
Jane, I had 3 planes that were coming down from top to bottom that were hideous, after I flattened the image I cloned them out. I didn't take too long but definetly easier than working on the individual images!!
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I had way more than three and they were going in every direction! Anyway, I've cleaned up the files and have a result so now I just have to hope it gets accepted:
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:55 am
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So Cool!!!!!!
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gep
Joined: 17 May 2006
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Location: hurricane alley
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:14 pm
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great composite, like how you recovered detail from the rocks and foreground. nice work.
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rixie
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:28 pm
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Thank you Laurin and Murray, I have also submitted another version and I am hoping that at least one will be accepted. I have a stack of photos from the first night, taken from a different angle, so I'm hoping to get a result from that too.
Thanks to Katrina for the experience, I really enjoyed it and love the results :0)
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mikenorton
Joined: 22 Aug 2005
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Location: Guide Book http://www.lulu.com/shop/mike-norton/nortons-notes/paperback/product-5079819.html
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:49 pm
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Jane, those are nice! I like Monument Valley Star Trails 1 the best.
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digigandalf
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 5418
Location: Twinsburg, OH
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:07 pm
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Jane, Lorraine:
How did you get them to be high enough quality for stock? Mine are too full of noise, being shot at 3200 iso. Never even considered submitting any of them.
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tobkatrina
Joined: 26 Sep 2005
Posts: 1886
Location: Missing NYC terribly :(..........
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:00 am
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| rixie wrote: | Thank you Laurin and Murray, I have also submitted another version and I am hoping that at least one will be accepted. I have a stack of photos from the first night, taken from a different angle, so I'm hoping to get a result from that too.
Thanks to Katrina for the experience, I really enjoyed it and love the results :0) |
O. M. G. JANE THIS IS GORGEOUS!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! Way to go girl!!!!
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:10 am
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Amazing.
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tobkatrina
Joined: 26 Sep 2005
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Location: Missing NYC terribly :(..........
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:54 am
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| digigandalf wrote: | Jane, Lorraine:
How did you get them to be high enough quality for stock? Mine are too full of noise, being shot at 3200 iso. Never even considered submitting any of them. |
A good reviewer will recognize what must happen to take the shot. If it has a bit of noise and the only way to shoot it is by increasing your ISO, an experienced reviewer will see and appreciate that. A good shot is a good shot, subject and composition should trump technicalities that are beyond the shooters control =)
Shoot for the shot first, think of stock last. That will change your port really fast =)
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rixie
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:37 am
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| digigandalf wrote: | Jane, Lorraine:
How did you get them to be high enough quality for stock? Mine are too full of noise, being shot at 3200 iso. Never even considered submitting any of them. |
Hi Ken,
I figured as Katrina said, that there is no way to get a shot like this without a high ISO - my camera was actually set at 5000!
My 'points of light' images were very noisy but I managed to reduce this by merging all these first, and cleaning up with a bit of blurring and desaturating the foreground, and then putting the less noisy 'blue hour' shot over the top. I also reduced the image size a bit - I went down to 3700 x 2467, so I still have further to go if necessary. It took me quite a while to do, (considering a potential return of 38c per DL), but I'm quite pleased with the result and, if one or both of these are accepted, I had some other ideas to try ;o)
I hate to do this, for fear of being shot down in flames but here is a 100% crop, (not perfect but not bad considering conditions!):
EDIT: I have had to save at lower res to upload the crop. The haloing is not so obvious on the high-res.
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rixie
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:42 am
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| tobkatrina wrote: | | digigandalf wrote: | Jane, Lorraine:
How did you get them to be high enough quality for stock? Mine are too full of noise, being shot at 3200 iso. Never even considered submitting any of them. |
A good reviewer will recognize what must happen to take the shot. If it has a bit of noise and the only way to shoot it is by increasing your ISO, an experienced reviewer will see and appreciate that. A good shot is a good shot, subject and composition should trump technicalities that are beyond the shooters control =)
Shoot for the shot first, think of stock last. That will change your port really fast =) |
I hope you are right, as I would love to see one of these accepted!
Thanks again for the experience and for sharing for knowledge ;o)
Thanks Laurin, Murray, Mike for the positive feedback and thanks Lorraine for the tips on how to actually get the image together!
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:49 am
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Considering the shot and how you had to take it with so many exposures over such a long period of time I think it is done very well and that is shown by the crop. The focus is even better than I have seen by some who took just one shot at 1/500th. Don't start thinking negative about the image. As Katrina says look at it in the context of the shot you took and what you were trying to achieve. Well done!
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kourafas5
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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Location: South Shore area,Ma
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:00 am
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| rixie wrote: | | tobkatrina wrote: | | digigandalf wrote: | Jane, Lorraine:
How did you get them to be high enough quality for stock? Mine are too full of noise, being shot at 3200 iso. Never even considered submitting any of them. |
A good reviewer will recognize what must happen to take the shot. If it has a bit of noise and the only way to shoot it is by increasing your ISO, an experienced reviewer will see and appreciate that. A good shot is a good shot, subject and composition should trump technicalities that are beyond the shooters control =)
Shoot for the shot first, think of stock last. That will change your port really fast =) |
I hope you are right, as I would love to see one of these accepted!
Thanks again for the experience and for sharing for knowledge ;o)
Thanks Laurin, Murray, Mike for the positive feedback and thanks Lorraine for the tips on how to actually get the image together! |
Jane, I LOVE it..you did a great job with the foreground! We had so much fun doing this..worth every minute..or should I say every 30 second exposure. :)
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