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triceratops
Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:19 pm
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| jeffbanke wrote: | Re the cropping issue, what it comes down to is asking yourself the question, "Do I want to limit the way anyone can use this image?" if so, then crop it any way you want, if you want to allow a graphic designer/art director to be able to use an image sans crop, or cropped in a different way to that which YOU have in mind, then best don't crop.
As for cropped images selling, I am sure that they do sell and it simply means that others agree on the way you have cropped the image, so ask yourself another question "How many more images of this subject would I have sold if it were not cropped?"
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robhainer
Joined: 03 May 2010
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Location: Dallas, GA, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:47 pm
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Do it both ways. You get more than one image that way, and you can sell both. Try to shoot the image as many different ways as you can think of.
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tverkhovynets
Joined: 12 Jun 2010
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Location: Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:51 pm
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| robhainer wrote: | | Do it both ways. You get more than one image that way, and you can sell both. Try to shoot the image as many different ways as you can think of. |
+10. Cropped version may have more impact on the viewer. He may just like it more than not cropped version. But I agree that not cropped version should be available too.
Taras
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greenfield54
Joined: 21 Jun 2009
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Location: Philippines
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:58 pm
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Dave in his food shots always mentions about the shot within the shot wherein he shoots and/or crops his shots to come up with multiple images of the same subject. So if done correctly, different versions could appeal to a wider spectrum of buyers.
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:51 am
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When I see something....basically anything I shoot I take an overALL, then I move in and around. If doing a portrait and I get a look or feel I want I work it hard. But, What I submit is generally My vision of what I want to convey. My output is not always geared to stock. There is art involved and I need to think about other markets, At least I hope so.And I do not want my stuff to look stocky that anyone with 2 lights can do and, I want to be known for My vision and look because I firmly believe buyers bookmark you. If that makes it not sell as much, So be it. But I also agree and have said many times. Compose,then take 3 steps back,refocus and shoot if this is all your doing this for. I upload many versions usually. And the way I crop has always sold many times more than not.
Cropping is about composition and 90% of the time I'll do it in camera.Your Mileage may vary.Just Like doing B&W some really don't do it well and will tell you it doesn't sell. There wrong.
These 2 have been in the top 50 4 times and sold 4000 times each and been featured on the home page of every other site and been in many Gallery shows..It's your vision and keep it your vision. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.. if it doesn't work, it doesn't work but when it does, it's pretty cool. Your the artist.
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dustine
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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Location: You're in my viewfinder...
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:16 am
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Rinder, those are great examples how you can use good crops to draw focus to the face on head shots and you're lighting is spot on!
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marcusvdt
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
Posts: 1204
Location: www.flashbackfoto.com.br or www.facebook.com/flashbackfoto
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:18 am
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| rinder99 wrote: | When I see something....basically anything I shoot I take an overALL, then I move in and around. If doing a portrait and I get a look or feel I want I work it hard. But, What I submit is generally My vision of what I want to convey. My output is not always geared to stock. There is art involved and I need to think about other markets, At least I hope so.And I do not want my stuff to look stocky that anyone with 2 lights can do and, I want to be known for My vision and look because I firmly believe buyers bookmark you. If that makes it not sell as much, So be it. But I also agree and have said many times. Compose,then take 3 steps back,refocus and shoot if this is all your doing this for. I upload many versions usually. And the way I crop has always sold many times more than not.
Cropping is about composition and 90% of the time I'll do it in camera.Your Mileage may vary.Just Like doing B&W some really don't do it well and will tell you it doesn't sell. There wrong.
These 2 have been in the top 50 4 times and sold 4000 times each and been featured on the home page of every other site and been in many Gallery shows..It's your vision and keep it your vision. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.. if it doesn't work, it doesn't work but when it does, it's pretty cool. Your the artist.
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And I try to keep mine. Not always effective, but I'm following my path.
And for the record, I don't shoot specifically for stock. But if I can fit some fun, client expectation and stock, I do that.
BTW, Laurin, these are stunning photos with fantastic post processing.
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
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Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:21 am
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Note how in Laurins example of a good crop how he has followed the rule of thirds with the key elements falling on the thirds
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dustine
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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Location: You're in my viewfinder...
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:27 pm
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| jeffbanke wrote: | | Note how in Laurins example of a good crop how he has followed the rule of thirds with the key elements falling on the thirds |
Good point Jeff, you're absolutely right. That's amazing.
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semmickphoto
Joined: 12 Feb 2012
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