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mehulnaik


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:46 am     Reply with quote

Hi there,

This was shot 10 mins before sunset with 400 ND filter. Please comment on composition, quality, etc.



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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:55 am     Reply with quote

Horizon is tilted, artefacts around the bolts and fringing
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:09 am     Reply with quote

What is a 400 ND filter?

I have graduated ND filters and they are a 2 and 4 grad ND filter.

And where and how did you place the filter.
mehulnaik


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:10 am     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
Horizon is tilted, artefacts around the bolts and fringing



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ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:19 am     Reply with quote

Open shadows and rotate .7 right.


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mehulnaik


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:20 am     Reply with quote

Its HOya ND 400 ( 9 stop filter). It is a screw on filter so I just attached it onto my lens.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:25 am     Reply with quote

mehulnaik wrote:
Its HOya ND 400 ( 9 stop filter). It is a screw on filter so I just attached it onto my lens.
So its not a graduated filter?

Meaning one half is clear and then it graduates down and gets darker by 9 stops.

Should look like this.



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mehulnaik


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:29 am     Reply with quote

ruxpriencdiam wrote:
mehulnaik wrote:
Its HOya ND 400 ( 9 stop filter). It is a screw on filter so I just attached it onto my lens.
So its not a graduated filter?

Meaning one half is clear and then it graduates down and gets darker by 9 stops.


No its just a neutral density filter.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:31 am     Reply with quote

mehulnaik wrote:
ruxpriencdiam wrote:
mehulnaik wrote:
Its HOya ND 400 ( 9 stop filter). It is a screw on filter so I just attached it onto my lens.
So its not a graduated filter?

Meaning one half is clear and then it graduates down and gets darker by 9 stops.


No its just a neutral density filter.
So the whole filter is 9 stops darker meaning you underexposed the entire shot.

You need the ND grads.

Look above at the pic i posted of what a ND grad is.
Mike Price


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:06 am     Reply with quote

You use solid ND filters when the whole scene is evenly lit to reduce light to allow a longer exposure to produce the smooth flowing effect on the ocean.

Apart from the technical problems described I find the tops of the poles exactly intesecting with the horizon distracting. I think a lower viewpoint to raise the poles into the sky area would improve the composition.

Mike


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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:10 am     Reply with quote

Mike Price wrote:
... I find the tops of the poles exactly intersecting with the horizon distracting...


+1 Thats what was bothering me as well
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:46 am     Reply with quote

My question is why use the ND filter? Were you trying to slow down the shutter speed to get some soft movement with the water? If so then I can see why but not for any other reason.
digigandalf


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:58 am     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
Mike Price wrote:
... I find the tops of the poles exactly intersecting with the horizon distracting...


+1 Thats what was bothering me as well


+2 Almost looks like the poles are holding up the sky.
wiml


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:13 am     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
Mike Price wrote:
... I find the tops of the poles exactly intersecting with the horizon distracting...


+1 Thats what was bothering me as well


Hmm yeah, too bad though, great shot mate and good luck!



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copidosoma


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:15 am     Reply with quote

ruxpriencdiam wrote:
mehulnaik wrote:
ruxpriencdiam wrote:
mehulnaik wrote:
Its HOya ND 400 ( 9 stop filter). It is a screw on filter so I just attached it onto my lens.
So its not a graduated filter?

Meaning one half is clear and then it graduates down and gets darker by 9 stops.


No its just a neutral density filter.
So the whole filter is 9 stops darker meaning you underexposed the entire shot.

You need the ND grads.

Look above at the pic i posted of what a ND grad is.


Hey Barry, Solid ND filters have a very specific use in landscapes (allowing you a very slow shutterspeed even in daylight to get that cloudy water look). Graduated NDs aren't the only useful landscape filter out there. In this case the solid one was a perfectly valid coice.

Having said that...

AS above, the tilted horizon (easy to fix) and fringing (harder to fix) are going to ding this one.
 
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