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hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:54 pm     Reply with quote

Mike, the only images that will show up when you hit the quote button are those that come from the Shutterstock database, not ones added by someone from a place other than the database. You didn't do anything wrong.
fraiseap


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:00 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:

Adam , The only thing I would have done is close the curtains so the reflection in the mirror wasn't so strong. My clients wouldn't go for that.Funny thing is. The last year or so, Im getting More and more away from using strobes and stuff and working on Dynamic balance with Maybe some 25watt screw in slaves in Lamps and light Fixtures as they do in Architectural Digest.90% of my stuff is done in homes and showrooms, Not studios to much anymore.And I hide slaves behind chairs for more a 3D punch effect instead of flat. They Like that.



Yes Laurin, you are right but I couldn't touch the curtains/drapes. The house was built in 1789 and almost all of the furniture and fittings are original. I was petrified that a strobe would fall over and damage something. I used more sandbags than you would believe.
fraiseap


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:05 pm     Reply with quote

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fraiseap,
That's a good example of why to have a meter. Have you ever done any HDRs in this kind of situation? It seems like this kind of shot would be the perfect for HDR.


Yes Mike, I have done HDR in this situation. It wasnt really right for this job because they wanted a period look, but there was a shot in a dark study that HDR worked for.

Here is the one as shot (with strobes) and the HDR version is below



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rinder99


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:42 pm     Reply with quote

Sweet!!!
mikenorton


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:22 pm     Reply with quote

The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows. Thanks for the images.

Dave,
I learn something new from you every day! Next weekend should be lots of fun!
dankaplan


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:46 pm     Reply with quote

No question about it. When B&H opens up tomorrow from their holiday break, I'll be ordering my new meter. Thanks to all of you, I've learnt a lot!!!!
PaulCowan


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:33 am     Reply with quote

mikenorton wrote:
The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows.


Hmmm .... if you look at page 160 of your copy of Ansel Adams's The Negative you will see that he was perfectly able to achieve that sort of balance without resorting to HDR.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:08 am     Reply with quote

PaulCowan wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows.


Hmmm .... if you look at page 160 of your copy of Ansel Adams's The Negative you will see that he was perfectly able to achieve that sort of balance without resorting to HDR.


ROFL.. so true.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:49 pm     Reply with quote

PaulCowan wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows.


Hmmm .... if you look at page 160 of your copy of Ansel Adams's The Negative you will see that he was perfectly able to achieve that sort of balance without resorting to HDR.


Yes but he used dodging and burning during the process to get the image he wanted.!
PaulCowan


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:45 am     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
PaulCowan wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows.


Hmmm .... if you look at page 160 of your copy of Ansel Adams's The Negative you will see that he was perfectly able to achieve that sort of balance without resorting to HDR.


Yes but he used dodging and burning during the process to get the image he wanted.!


You haven't read page 160, have you? The technique he used was to meter for the view through the window and then to light the interior so it was balanced with the light outside.

My point is that there is no reason to assume you can't light an interior to balance with a daylight scene.
mikenorton


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:13 am     Reply with quote

PaulCowan wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
PaulCowan wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows.


Hmmm .... if you look at page 160 of your copy of Ansel Adams's The Negative you will see that he was perfectly able to achieve that sort of balance without resorting to HDR.


Yes but he used dodging and burning during the process to get the image he wanted.!


You haven't read page 160, have you? The technique he used was to meter for the view through the window and then to light the interior so it was balanced with the light outside.

My point is that there is no reason to assume you can't light an interior to balance with a daylight scene.


Please show us the image you are talking about.
PaulCowan


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:30 am     Reply with quote

mikenorton wrote:
PaulCowan wrote:
jeffbanke wrote:
PaulCowan wrote:
mikenorton wrote:
The HDR really opens up the carpet and shadows.


Hmmm .... if you look at page 160 of your copy of Ansel Adams's The Negative you will see that he was perfectly able to achieve that sort of balance without resorting to HDR.


Yes but he used dodging and burning during the process to get the image he wanted.!


You haven't read page 160, have you? The technique he used was to meter for the view through the window and then to light the interior so it was balanced with the light outside.

My point is that there is no reason to assume you can't light an interior to balance with a daylight scene.



Please show us the image you are talking about.



It is on page 160 of The Negative by Ansell Adams as I keep saying.

All those who praise Adams should have copies, shouldn't they ;)

The only copy of it I can find on google is minute
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25407&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1240269638
draskovic


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:48 am     Reply with quote

Yes !
 
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