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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:09 am     Reply with quote

If the white balance is off, you can easily correct in post that when you shoot RAW.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:07 am     Reply with quote

sundeep wrote:
guy, thanks for all the useful tips. It really helps me think about what i did or rather did not do.

To be absolutely honest, am just starting to shoot people, using a 2x2 softbox on one side and and umbrella on the other. The techniques or light positions am trying to learn from online tutorials / videos. So yes, it is more than possible that a lot of what i am doing is , all part of the learning process i guess.

In this particular case :-
1. I set the white balance to cloudy to get a warmer look, so that probably accounts for the yellowish tinge.
2. The lights were 2-3 feet from Nikita, so probably accounts for the shadows etc.

However, having looked at many of the online images, i do see that many of them have a lot of shadows quite similar to this image, so not really sure why its an issue only here? Maybe its a combination of that + the other issues as well.


Don't forget that there is one aspect of this that we cannot control and that is the reviewing process. You can have everything just about spot on and it all comes down to how the reviewer sees it. We can tell and show you the best way to do things but we cannot control the reviewers.

As a couple of us have said the problem with your shadows is not a major problem. There is a technical aspect of the shot that could have used some adjustment to make it correct but it was not a glaring problem.

Are there shots out there that have been accepted and have more issues than yours? You bet, tons of them. This is a multifaceted process and we can control only part of it. We can tell you how to do it so it is technically correct, then it is up to the reviewers.
sundeep


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:00 am     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:


Don't forget that there is one aspect of this that we cannot control and that is the reviewing process. You can have everything just about spot on and it all comes down to how the reviewer sees it. We can tell and show you the best way to do things but we cannot control the reviewers.

As a couple of us have said the problem with your shadows is not a major problem. There is a technical aspect of the shot that could have used some adjustment to make it correct but it was not a glaring problem.

Are there shots out there that have been accepted and have more issues than yours? You bet, tons of them. This is a multifaceted process and we can control only part of it. We can tell you how to do it so it is technically correct, then it is up to the reviewers.


I really appreciate all the pointers and help, many thanks !!
robhainer


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:19 am     Reply with quote

Like I said, I don't think shadows were the lighting problem. I think it was the flat look of it and the white balance. Not being able to read the mind of the reviewer, I can't tell for sure.

Next step, I think, is to just reshoot and use clamshell lighting. Nothing complex or fancy. Keep it simple and work on the poses. Try to get different facial expressions and emotions out of her. Then post them here for critique until you can get this straightened out.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:56 am     Reply with quote

One thing that as a portrait specialist. Mixing Light sources has problems for me as I look instantly at eyes. I see a soft Box and a umbrella. One square and one circle. That always looks weird to me.One makes it better as an Image to me and I fixed the softbox so it doesn't have a hot spot in it. It's Like everything else...The devil is in the details and forcing the viewer to look where you want them to. Also russ's fix on WB is much better. I like Warm Images also But don't use the amateur settings Like cloudy and sunny crap. Use a custom WB Or do what I do. I have a 81A warming filter that stays on all my lenses all the time. I set my WB in studio to 5900, And along with the filter Gives a nice Pleasing effect instead of yellow or orange and the color of the childs skin is naturally Oliveish, So stay away from making that work against you. The Natural color of a models skin is very , Very Important.I would have gone the opposite with this child.

Also In the portrait Business and retouching we do whats called a "False catch" I do it in every Portrait. It can be done At the shoot with a curved wht card or in Post. Do you see what I did? It adds dimension and interest to the eye.Very subtle but very Important.



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robhainer


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:28 am     Reply with quote

Speaking of shooting kids. It's easy to tell when shooting time is over. :(


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