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turbodls1ta
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Location: T'exas, y'all
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:10 pm
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Just some random bird I shot while in South Texas. Just seeing if Im on the right track..
1/4000, f5.6, ISO 400, 200mm
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robhainer

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:17 pm
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Focus is close, but a bit soft. Also noisy and underexposed. Composition isn't bad, though too centered.
You don't need 1/4000 of a second. It's not a bullet. You can afford to drop your iso since it's not a moving target. That will help with the noise.
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turbodls1ta
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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Location: T'exas, y'all
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:17 pm
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BTW, anyone know what kind of bird this is?
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turbodls1ta
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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Location: T'exas, y'all
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:23 pm
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Yea, It was shot at 1/4000 because I was actually in the middle of shooting jets and forgot to to adjust. Would a smaller aperture have helped the DoF or would it not have mattered? I was roughly 50 ft away..
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robhainer

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:27 pm
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Might have helped focus by getting you closer to the sweet spot on your lens, which is f8 on most telephotos. Not sure about yours. DOF isn't the issue. It's the focus on the subject itself.
The focus isn't that far off. The noise from underexposure is killing the detail.
I think it's a mockingbird, by the way.
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turbodls1ta
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Location: T'exas, y'all
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:36 pm
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Canon 70-200 f4
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chinchoi

Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:31 pm
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i think not enough frontal light to show the bird's feather detail, so it look soft, & your focus seems to be on the bird torso and not the eye, thus the OOF issue.
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ruxpriencdiam

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Location: Third Stone from the Sun
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:44 pm
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A bit more like this.
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pharm

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:50 pm
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Fill flash.
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rinder99

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:28 am
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"Yea, It was shot at 1/4000 because I was actually in the middle of shooting jets and forgot to to adjust."
Well....DUH.
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jeffbanke

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:48 pm
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More like this I would say, and fill flash would have been great idea as you need more fill
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rinder99

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:50 pm
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Ya wanna shoot this subject, Ya need a flash extender.
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jeffbanke

Joined: 18 Dec 2005
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:55 pm
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and forget about built-in camera flashes
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turbodls1ta
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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Location: T'exas, y'all
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:10 pm
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So slower exposure, or fill flash.. Check.. Right now I have a 430EX, which I think has a range of about 120ft (which could have worked here, I guess). Was it just the underexposure that caused the noise? I gave the original photo about 30% noise reduction, which took care of the sky and brighter spots, but not the chest of the bird..
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jeffbanke

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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:21 pm
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| turbodls1ta wrote: | | So slower exposure, or fill flash.. Check.. Right now I have a 430EX, which I think has a range of about 120ft (which could have worked here, I guess). Was it just the underexposure that caused the noise? I gave the original photo about 30% noise reduction, which took care of the sky and brighter spots, but not the chest of the bird.. |
Underexposure is generally the cause of most noise
What is needed is the balancing of the underside of the bird with the upper side which is lit by the sun and or sky
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