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luizeduardo


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:15 pm     Reply with quote

cpaulfell wrote:
There is no smoke?


Yes, there was, but it was a weak one. The light and the background's killed it.

I even tryed to show some ember, but I could not find a way to do that without blowing the cigarette and making a mess.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:42 pm     Reply with quote

luizeduardo wrote:
cpaulfell wrote:
There is no smoke?


Yes, there was, but it was a weak one. The light and the background's killed it.

I even tryed to show some ember, but I could not find a way to do that without blowing the cigarette and making a mess.


Instead of blowing on it which can be very broad use a hurricane blower (like you use to blow dust off your sensor. With the little hole it acts like a bellows and you can direct the air to a specific spot and less mess.
copidosoma


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Location: Canada

Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:35 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
luizeduardo wrote:
cpaulfell wrote:
There is no smoke?


Yes, there was, but it was a weak one. The light and the background's killed it.

I even tryed to show some ember, but I could not find a way to do that without blowing the cigarette and making a mess.


Instead of blowing on it which can be very broad use a hurricane blower (like you use to blow dust off your sensor. With the little hole it acts like a bellows and you can direct the air to a specific spot and less mess.


Or maybe try to shoot it with a very long exposure (dark room small aperature) and use second curtain sync on the lights. No idea if this would actually work. It was just something that popped into my head.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:01 pm     Reply with quote

shoot on black.and use a straw to make it glow.

luizeduardo


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:38 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you all for your Ideas! Good to learn from the masters :-)

I am going to put some of them in practice just for the fun of it.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:58 pm     Reply with quote

[quote="rinder99"]shoot on black.and use a straw to make it glow.

Looks like my technique on using a straw to selectively melt ice cream works for other things as well :)
gabes1976


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:19 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
rinder99 wrote:
shoot on black.and use a straw to make it glow.


Looks like my technique on using a straw to selectively melt ice cream works for other things as well :)


A plastic straw?
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:52 pm     Reply with quote

gabes1976 wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
rinder99 wrote:
shoot on black.and use a straw to make it glow.


Looks like my technique on using a straw to selectively melt ice cream works for other things as well :)


A plastic straw?


Yup - I had a shot once where I had to melt just a couple of small sections on a scoop of ice cream without melting the rest of the scoop. I needed it so I could have a topping run down this section that was melted. Took me awhile to figure out how to melt only a section of ice cream and that was to use a plastic straw. I put it in my mouth and gently blew onto the sections that needed to melt. When I did that I put on the cherry sauce and got the shot.
gabes1976


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Post Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:29 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
gabes1976 wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
rinder99 wrote:
shoot on black.and use a straw to make it glow.


Looks like my technique on using a straw to selectively melt ice cream works for other things as well :)


A plastic straw?


Yup - I had a shot once where I had to melt just a couple of small sections on a scoop of ice cream without melting the rest of the scoop. I needed it so I could have a topping run down this section that was melted. Took me awhile to figure out how to melt only a section of ice cream and that was to use a plastic straw. I put it in my mouth and gently blew onto the sections that needed to melt. When I did that I put on the cherry sauce and got the shot.


Great ideas with a straw. Both to selectively melt the ice cream and to keep the cigarette lit.
hhltdave5


Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com

Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:04 am     Reply with quote

gabes1976 wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
gabes1976 wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:
rinder99 wrote:
shoot on black.and use a straw to make it glow.


Looks like my technique on using a straw to selectively melt ice cream works for other things as well :)


A plastic straw?


Yup - I had a shot once where I had to melt just a couple of small sections on a scoop of ice cream without melting the rest of the scoop. I needed it so I could have a topping run down this section that was melted. Took me awhile to figure out how to melt only a section of ice cream and that was to use a plastic straw. I put it in my mouth and gently blew onto the sections that needed to melt. When I did that I put on the cherry sauce and got the shot.


Great ideas with a straw. Both to selectively melt the ice cream and to keep the cigarette lit.


As I always say...Improvise, Overcome and Adapt.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:55 am     Reply with quote

Doing commercial tabletop product work requires a gazillion tricks for lighting ,sets and props and there not in any book I've ever seen.They Just come out of your head.It's all smoke and mirrors...LOL You should come watch a full Blown Product shoot. 2/3 days of setup and testing and a second to shoot it.It used to get pretty elaborate when I used to do it.Try making a washing Machine look sexy.Negative space becomes Very important.The brandy shot looks simple...it's supposed to But took a day and a half and a copy of something to took for seagrams 25 years ago. the dripping honey took a few hours.Spectral highlights is what it's about.


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