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vinnie77


Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Post Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:00 am     Reply with quote

Does anyone have advice on how to improve night photos? For example, just about all of my photos shot after dark come out blurry. I've been fortunate to travel to a number of cities throughout Asia and would like to capture some amazing skylines at night, but they just won't come out clear no matter how steady my hand is or if I place the camera on a flat surface.

Someone recommended using a tripod, but sometimes it's not convenient to set one up - i.e. crowded conditions, excess baggage, etc.

I use a Canon Powershot 4mpx that's a few years old.

Any advice would be appreciated. I think some of my travel shots would be great to submit to Shutterstock, if only they came out clearly.

Thanks in advance.

Vinnie.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:05 pm     Reply with quote

Since you have no photos in your gallery i take it you are new.

Therefore you are going to need to get a good DSLR tripod, remote release and more.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 pm     Reply with quote

Night photos call for slow shutter speeds which requires a good solid tripod. Even those of us who have excellent hand holding technique would find it extremely difficult to do without a tripod.

Night shots are also hard to do because of noise created with the longer shutter speeds and if you boost your ISO. The sensor in that camera is too small to handle such a shot without problems.

It is also not recommended to do night shots as part of your first ten due to the technical issues involved.

Capturing the best shot you can depends on first having the right technique and the right equipment. Just because something is inconvenient is not a valid reason for not using one.

When the time comes that you do get a tripod get one that will do the job properly. The little flimsy things that many camera shops sell are really not worth much at all and are generally meant for using a video camera (they have the pan head and arm). If your tripod is not stable and strong there is no sense in spending money on it. I suggest coming here and asking us for recommendations when you want to make the purchase.
mauijon


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Post Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:48 pm     Reply with quote

You could try resting the camera on a beanbag.
ramses02


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Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 4:00 am     Reply with quote

you NEED a Tripod. try a gorillapod if size matters, but also get a cam with higher res.
Anne Power


Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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Location: Louisiana, USA

Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:44 pm     Reply with quote

Sorry, but a tripod is definitely a necessity for night photography. As for the "remote release and more" ruxpriencdiam mentioned, don't let that scare you. The remote release is suggested because even with a tripod, pressing the button can cause a small bit of vibration in your camera. However, if your camera has a timer function, just set it and then push the button so that you're not in contact with the camera when the photo is actually taken. Not sure what "more" ruxpriencdiam is referring to, but a good camera and tripod are all the equipment I've ever needed for success.
jackai


Joined: 06 Aug 2010
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Location: New York, NY

Post Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:45 am     Reply with quote

Have to agree with all the other posts. A tripod is a must when you have the slow shutter speeds to capture light patterns. Get a decent camera with a good sensor too. If you don't have a lot of money, use what I use - canon powershot G10 or G11.

But the tripod is your best friend! Good luck!
darla


Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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Post Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:01 pm     Reply with quote

Any photo shot at 1/60 or slower will be better with a tripod. Your own heartbeat will mess you up at that slow a speed.

There's a sort of Zen trick to slow down your heartbeat that can help if you really want to get a slow shot hand held. It's called the sniper's trance, and takes a bit of practice.
pharm


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Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:00 am     Reply with quote

Darla, there's a post for you in another thread. It's a response to what you said but it was apparently accidentally posted as a new thread instead of a reply:

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123016
jackai


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Location: New York, NY

Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:03 am     Reply with quote

thanks pharm for the pick up. That was me. I'll copy and paste here:

Darla,
That's pretty trippy. I don't know if I'd have the patience to practice that. Speaking of Night photos, I wanted to share some suggested starting point exposures for photographing subjects at night:

Assuming a 400 ISO
Neon Signs 1/125 @ f2.8 - f4
Fireworks 1/60 @ f4 - f5.6
Home Interiors (Bright) 1/30 @ f2.8 - f4
Home Interiors (Average) 1/30 @ f2
Skylines 1 sec @ f2.8 - f4
Shop Windows 1/60 @ f4 - f5.6
Brightly Lit Buildings and Monuments 1 sec @ f2
Landscape (Full Moon, Clear Sky, Lit Foreground) 12-15min @f4 - f5.6
suwanneeredhead


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Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:51 am     Reply with quote

vinnie77 wrote:
I use a Canon Powershot 4mpx that's a few years old.

You can't submit photos from a 4 megapixel camera now, used to be able to, but if you're new, you cannot, 6 megapixels is your lower limit. You definitely need a new camera (and a tripod)!
triceratops


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:10 pm     Reply with quote

suwanneeredhead wrote:
vinnie77 wrote:
I use a Canon Powershot 4mpx that's a few years old.

You can't submit photos from a 4 megapixel camera now, used to be able to, but if you're new, you cannot, 6 megapixels is your lower limit. You definitely need a new camera (and a tripod)!


Where did you find this 6 MP limit? I haven't heard that and the FAQ still lists 4 MP (submitter guidelines still show 2.5 MP and that changed in 2005 so who knows what may be current)?

To the OP:
Most old 4 MP cameras don't really shoot 4 MP images. It's usually something less than that and the manufacturer just rounded the value up for marketing purposes.


Last edited by triceratops on Mon May 21, 2012 3:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
suwanneeredhead


Joined: 28 Jul 2005
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Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:14 pm     Reply with quote

triceratops wrote:
suwanneeredhead wrote:
vinnie77 wrote:
I use a Canon Powershot 4mpx that's a few years old.

You can't submit photos from a 4 megapixel camera now, used to be able to, but if you're new, you cannot, 6 megapixels is your lower limit. You definitely need a new camera (and a tripod)!


Where did you find this 6 MP limit? I haven't heard that and the FAQ still lists 4 MP (submitter guidelines still show 2.5 MP and that changed in 2005 so who knows what may be current)?

I'm sorry, I may be mistaken, I cannot find that either... I just distinctly remember having the megapixel limit go up a couple years after I joined... I remember the new people having to get new cameras, etc. to meet the new limit. Perhaps it was a different agency. Thanks for clarifying that.
triceratops


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:16 pm     Reply with quote

suwanneeredhead wrote:
triceratops wrote:
suwanneeredhead wrote:
vinnie77 wrote:
I use a Canon Powershot 4mpx that's a few years old.

You can't submit photos from a 4 megapixel camera now, used to be able to, but if you're new, you cannot, 6 megapixels is your lower limit. You definitely need a new camera (and a tripod)!


Where did you find this 6 MP limit? I haven't heard that and the FAQ still lists 4 MP (submitter guidelines still show 2.5 MP and that changed in 2005 so who knows what may be current)?

I'm sorry, I may be mistaken, I cannot find that either... I just distinctly remember having the megapixel limit go up a couple years after I joined... I remember the new people having to get new cameras, etc. to meet the new limit. Perhaps it was a different agency. Thanks for clarifying that.


You're probably thinking of the change from 2.5 to 4 MP here on SS. There are other sites that require 6 MP minimum and a lot of talk about bumping minimums up to 8 MP.
 
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