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jutia
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:18 pm
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Please criticize these green mangoes
especially the composition
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rinder99
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:22 pm
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Hello. on camera flash makes it a snapshot along with the stuff at the bottom that doesn't belong there.Sorry.
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jutia
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:32 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | Hello. on camera flash makes it a snapshot along with the stuff at the bottom that doesn't belong there.Sorry. |
ok, thanks
I should make the shot without flash and leave out the items below
On the other hand do not grieve to correct me, for me is a pleasure
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rinder99
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:51 pm
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More like this.
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semmickphoto
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:53 pm
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| jutia wrote: |
On the other hand do not grieve to correct me, for me is a pleasure |
That is one of the sweetest things I have read here lately :)
PS: I love Laurin's version.
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tverkhovynets
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:58 pm
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Still, this is not what buyers would buy. Does it look appetizing? No. Do you want to grab the mangoes from the tree with the aim of putting then into your mouth? No. Here is the answer.
When looking at your images, always ask yourself if there is something that doesn't belong to your image and what distracts viewer's attention. In this case, the trees at the bottom is something that shouldn't be on it.
As for the lighting question, you basically shot it at wrong time of the day. Even a good professional flash wouldn't make it good at this time. Maybe if you shoot it in the morning, it would be better in terms of lighting + good fill flash is preferable.
Taras
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jhuls
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:31 pm
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Laurin's version does help it quite a bit, but it's still not quite right composition wise. Your biggest problem is lighting, you need to wait until the sun is hitting the mangoes or find another spot to shoot from where the sun is hitting them. I think they may have some nice pastel colors to them but the lighting is so poor we can't see them.
Let me ask you something how long did it take you to take this shot? Did you just see some mangoes turn your flash on and shoot a few and hope you got something usable? Or did you stop and really think about it? Here are some questions you should be asking yourself when taking this type of shot:
1. Is the lighting right? if not is there a better time of day to take this shot or different place where the lighting is better?
2. What is in the background of my shot? Maybe if I can move my position slightly or zoom in closer.
3. Do I have all my settings correct? Shoot a few zoom in on your view finder and see how they are looking close up. Is the focus on? Is the lighting right? If not what adjustments can I make?
I do this with all of my shots, at first it was really time consuming. Sometimes for a shot like this I would spend 30 min to an hour just experimenting. Sometimes if I am close to home I would take a few upload them and try editing them to see how my settings are working. If they are not right I go out and try again. Eventually you get the process down so that it only takes minutes to get everything right, and you start to just have an instinct for what your settings should be before you even start. It takes time an lots of practice.
So I guess what I am saying is get out there and practice :) If you are like me it won't be work, because you will be having fun while you do it.
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kellythorson
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:25 pm
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So I guess what I am saying is get out there and practice :) If you are like me it won't be work, because you will be having fun while you do it. |
I agree, and it shows in your work (or play) Jenn. :)
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jutia
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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Location: Dominican Republic
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:20 am
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| jhuls wrote: | Laurin's version does help it quite a bit, but it's still not quite right composition wise. Your biggest problem is lighting, you need to wait until the sun is hitting the mangoes or find another spot to shoot from where the sun is hitting them. I think they may have some nice pastel colors to them but the lighting is so poor we can't see them.
Let me ask you something how long did it take you to take this shot? Did you just see some mangoes turn your flash on and shoot a few and hope you got something usable? Or did you stop and really think about it? Here are some questions you should be asking yourself when taking this type of shot:
1. Is the lighting right? if not is there a better time of day to take this shot or different place where the lighting is better?
2. What is in the background of my shot? Maybe if I can move my position slightly or zoom in closer.
3. Do I have all my settings correct? Shoot a few zoom in on your view finder and see how they are looking close up. Is the focus on? Is the lighting right? If not what adjustments can I make?
I do this with all of my shots, at first it was really time consuming. Sometimes for a shot like this I would spend 30 min to an hour just experimenting. Sometimes if I am close to home I would take a few upload them and try editing them to see how my settings are working. If they are not right I go out and try again. Eventually you get the process down so that it only takes minutes to get everything right, and you start to just have an instinct for what your settings should be before you even start. It takes time an lots of practice.
So I guess what I am saying is get out there and practice :) If you are like me it won't be work, because you will be having fun while you do it. |
answering some questions
really try to plan this shot,
I thought I had taken a good time to do, but in reality it was not, even when I went to had a strong sunlight,
composition in relation to the thought that including some elements in the background to the shot more interesting, now I understand that I'm wrong, other shots did not include these details, but I wanted to climb the more critical the shot that had me worried,
Best of all is that even I have the urge to travel 10 minutes at my parents house and get on the roof of the house and do better this shot, really enjoy it, this time will I plan best shot
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jutia
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:26 am
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| rinder99 wrote: | | More like this. |
experience can not be improvised,you could tell me a little about how to achieve this result in PS.
On the other hand,here other shot taken in the same section, I imagine that the same problems of lighting
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:05 am
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It's the shadows that kill it.
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jutia
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:19 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | It's the shadows that kill it. |
ok,I will work in the shadows
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:50 pm
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| jutia wrote: | | rinder99 wrote: | | It's the shadows that kill it. |
ok,I will work in the shadows |
Just forget the on camera flash for this kind of image, use reflectors and or diffusers
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