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Carbonic
Joined: 20 May 2012
Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:42 am
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"You expressly waive any artists' authorship rights or any droit moral that you would otherwise have under the laws of the State of New York, United States Copyright Act or similar laws of any jurisdiction."
So this means I have no intellectual property rights over my own photos because I upload them to some website? I haven't uploaded anything yet, and customer support is slow, so I thought I'd try this.
Do I actually have any rights after I upload a picture?
This site wasn't the only place I was planning on selling pictures, can I sell my pictures on another site simultaneously?
Can I take a picture down and the terms of use no longer applies?
How is shutterstock obligated to pay me if I have no rights? |
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mauijon

Joined: 02 Mar 2005
Posts: 4279
Location: Maui, Hawaii
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:58 pm
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Yes, you still have copyright protection on your photos, plus you get paid (a pittance.)
Each one-time use sale allows the buyer, designer, to use all or part of your pic per terms of agreement (no porno or disparaging-to-model, etc.) use.
Your intellectual property rights are as stated in Terms and you get paid for the use.
You can upload and sell on other sites but no exclusive use.
If you take the photo down, SS can no longer sell it.
Part of the terms of use includes you getting paid for that use ($0.35 or whatever.)
Read and reread the Terms. It's all in there. |
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pharm

Joined: 09 Jul 2006
Posts: 9406
Location: Never quite sure
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:33 pm
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| Carbonic wrote: | | "You expressly waive any artists' authorship rights or any droit moral [actually "droit morale"]... |
Interesting. "Waive" means to "give up" or "surrender claim". If you waive your authorship rights, that means you are giving up the rights to your own image. "Droit morale" means moral or personal rights that the creator of an image has as opposed to copyright which refers to economic rights.
On SS, and all other reputable stock sites, the copyright stays with you, the submitter.
As far as SS goes, this is from the Submitter Terms of Service:
"1.
Ownership of Submitted Content: the copyrights in and to all Submitted Content remain with the owner of such copyrights. Nothing contained herein shall be construed to transfer any copyrights to Shutterstock."
Here is the link to the Shutterstock Submitter Terms of Service:
http://submit.shutterstock.com/tostos.mhtml
Can you give us a reference to the page of the website you got your quote from? |
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Carbonic
Joined: 20 May 2012
Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:08 pm
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http://submit.shutterstock.com/tostos.mhtml
I have two contrary clauses within the same text. Couldn't shutterstock just chose which one they agree with if it ever became a legal issue? |
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jmci

Joined: 29 Oct 2006
Posts: 2383
Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:31 am
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The full paragraph reads, "By submitting any content to Shutterstock, you hereby grant Shutterstock, a worldwide, non-exclusive right and license to reproduce, prepare derivative works incorporating, publicly display, market, sublicense and sell any Submitted Content uploaded by you and accepted by Shutterstock, during the term of this agreement. Shutterstock, in the exercise of its discretion, may refrain from any or all of the foregoing without any liability to you. You expressly waive any artists' authorship rights or any droit moral that you would otherwise have under the laws of the State of New York, United States Copyright Act or similar laws of any jurisdiction."
I'm no lawyer, but the way I read it, that paragraph is there for the purpose of giving Shutterstock permission to display our images on the site and make them available to buyers. Since that is the whole purpose of uploading to SS, I have no problem with it. |
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