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rinder99
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:26 pm
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It's OOF and pls lose the fabric.
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hhltdave5
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:48 pm
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| christian900 wrote: | Thank you. (And I tried putting a small bowl upside down, but it kept floating to the top, so I had to use beans instead. The blue background is fabric I bought at the store to match the bowl, but I didn't know that blue and food didn't mix well)
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When doing the upside down bowl trick you need to make sure that the bowl is heavy enough to stay on the bottom. Plastic usually never works, you need a ceramic or glass.
Don't automatically think that blue and food does not go well together. It can go well together as long as the color is compatible with the rest of the image and it does not become over powering. Always remember that the use of color is like many other aspects to food photography in the the supporting parts of the image should enhance and not overwhelm the main part of the image.
The other thing I keep mentioning is that don't put things in the shot that really do not belong. For instance how many times when you have gone out to dinner or even at home when serving food do you see clams and the other item on the table? There is nothing wrong with showing what is in dish but you should put the diced clams in the soup. Don't put something in the shot that does not belong.
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:58 pm
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Oh, I did. I used a small glass bowl, but maybe it wasen't the right shape.
And the last time I did a clam chowder picture I was told to put the ingredients in the shot so that the audience could know what kind of soup it is. Did you mean to add diced clams additionally?
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:00 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | It's OOF and pls lose the fabric. |
Oh. What kind of background should I have for it?
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hhltdave5
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:25 pm
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| christian900 wrote: | Oh, I did. I used a small glass bowl, but maybe it wasen't the right shape.
And the last time I did a clam chowder picture I was told to put the ingredients in the shot so that the audience could know what kind of soup it is. Did you mean to add diced clams additionally? |
Were you told by someone here to but open clams in their shells in the shot on the table? If so that is not the best way to show what ingredients are in the soup. As I mentioned if you want to show the ingredients you would chop them up and put them in the soup itself so they can be visible in the soup.
As I said, showing ingredients of an item is good at times but you should not do it in a way that is what is not normally found in real life. You need to judge the ingredient to see if it is something that would work in the setting the shot is made in.
For example if you were showing how something was made as in a preparation of the dish then having the clams in the shell would be proper. Just ask yourself does the way it looks fit the situation in which it was shot.
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:49 pm
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| hhltdave5 wrote: | | christian900 wrote: | Oh, I did. I used a small glass bowl, but maybe it wasen't the right shape.
And the last time I did a clam chowder picture I was told to put the ingredients in the shot so that the audience could know what kind of soup it is. Did you mean to add diced clams additionally? |
Were you told by someone here to but open clams in their shells in the shot on the table? If so that is not the best way to show what ingredients are in the soup. As I mentioned if you want to show the ingredients you would chop them up and put them in the soup itself so they can be visible in the soup.
As I said, showing ingredients of an item is good at times but you should not do it in a way that is what is not normally found in real life. You need to judge the ingredient to see if it is something that would work in the setting the shot is made in.
For example if you were showing how something was made as in a preparation of the dish then having the clams in the shell would be proper. Just ask yourself does the way it looks fit the situation in which it was shot. |
Oh, not open. Would it have been proper to have them closed?
And that does make sense. Though it's hard for me to tell.
Also, what do you think of the last picture. The other person said to lose the fabric, but I thought the color was fitting. How should I change it?
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hhltdave5
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:03 pm
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| christian900 wrote: | | hhltdave5 wrote: | | christian900 wrote: | Oh, I did. I used a small glass bowl, but maybe it wasen't the right shape.
And the last time I did a clam chowder picture I was told to put the ingredients in the shot so that the audience could know what kind of soup it is. Did you mean to add diced clams additionally? |
Were you told by someone here to but open clams in their shells in the shot on the table? If so that is not the best way to show what ingredients are in the soup. As I mentioned if you want to show the ingredients you would chop them up and put them in the soup itself so they can be visible in the soup.
As I said, showing ingredients of an item is good at times but you should not do it in a way that is what is not normally found in real life. You need to judge the ingredient to see if it is something that would work in the setting the shot is made in.
For example if you were showing how something was made as in a preparation of the dish then having the clams in the shell would be proper. Just ask yourself does the way it looks fit the situation in which it was shot. |
Oh, not open. Would it have been proper to have them closed?
And that does make sense. Though it's hard for me to tell.
Also, what do you think of the last picture. The other person said to lose the fabric, but I thought the color was fitting. How should I change it? |
I would not even show them in their closed shell. I would not put clams anywhere in the shot except in the coup itself.
Look at it this way. What are you selling here? A bowl of clam chowder. If a buyer buys it they most likely will have text going with the shot which will say something like...
Enjoy the succulent sweetness of our clams in this classic New England Clam Chowder.
Right there those who are looking at it know it is clam chowder so there is no need to be putting clams on a table.
Now as I mentioned if I were doing a shot that shows how clam chowder is made then yes clams in their shell would be proper in the image somewhere.
Perhaps a visual will help. This is a shot of mine that I posted recently that dealt with doing soups and stews. It is a bowl of Chicken/Tortilla soup. Notice that I have chunks of chicken and tortilla strips visible in the soup. Do I need to put a chicken in the background to let whoever is looking at it know it is chicken? No. The title says what it is, the soup shows it as part of the soup so I don't need to put a chicken or pieces of chicken in the background.
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=6676342
Now, here is a shot of pasta that has been prepared. In it are the ingredients for pasta and this is when it is proper to show what is in the dish.
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=91759541
Now, is this something that you must follow no matter what? No, of course not there are no rules that absolutely must be followed all the time. The trick is knowing when to break the rules.
I have some shots that have some of the ingredients in a shot of the completed dish. But, in cases such as this they do not appear out of place in the situation of the shot.
Trust me you are not the first to go through this. I did it myself when I started out in food photography. But, as I got into it more and more and learned more and more I learned when and when not to do something.
As to the question about the fabric again go back to the situation of the shot. What are you trying to show? Is this seashell ball something that you would normally find sitting on a piece of fabric such as you have or would it look more normal perhaps on a bathroom counter top showing a nice spa/bathroom type setting?
I think what you are doing is zoning in on taking shots of different things and thinking about the background as just an area that does not mean too much to the shot. The background of a shot is often just as important as the object of the shot itself. Think of the whole shot and ask yourself does this look right?
Don't just take pictures of things. Photograph objects in a way that show off not only the concept but also do it in a way that seems natural and pleasing.
For me I would have shot this on a nice bathroom counter top with some decorative soaps, perhaps some natural sponges and things such as that. It would fit better in that type of setting than on a blue piece of what looks like synthetic material.
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rinder99
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 pm
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Would you or anyone go to a restaurant or a friends house and have this served on a blue rug type of thing? No you wouldn't. a simple nice clean countertop, a wooden cutting board with a clean spoon,napkin,a OOF plate or bowl of crusty bread and a OOF drink in a great glass. Maybe a sprinkle of something green on top.Parsley,whatever.Styling is the key to good food work and it is certainly an artform. food stylists make a lot of money. Daves cooks it, styles it,Lights it and shoots it. very few food shooters do all this.What it looks like is , it's sitting on the floor with a blue carpet.Not normal.Heres clam chowder>>>
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:26 pm
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That makes sense. I hadn't really thought of it like that before. I'm having to get used to the fact that it's more stock than art.
How about this one?
It's probably copyrighted.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:28 pm
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It is OOF with WB/lighting problems.
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:34 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | It is OOF with WB/lighting problems. |
Oh. Isn't it copyrighted as well? So that I know if I may use those plates again.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:36 pm
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| christian900 wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | It is OOF with WB/lighting problems. |
Oh. Isn't it copyrighted as well? So that I know if I may use those plates again. |
More then likely.
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:42 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | christian900 wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | It is OOF with WB/lighting problems. |
Oh. Isn't it copyrighted as well? So that I know if I may use those plates again. |
More then likely. |
So the copyrighted pictures are anything antique and with a design. And buildings with logos.
I was wondering though. If I went to a zoo and took pictures of animals, would I need a release form? It's something I want to do someday, but I wanted to get accepted first.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:45 pm
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| christian900 wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | christian900 wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | It is OOF with WB/lighting problems. |
Oh. Isn't it copyrighted as well? So that I know if I may use those plates again. |
More then likely. |
So the copyrighted pictures are anything antique and with a design. And buildings with logos.
I was wondering though. If I went to a zoo and took pictures of animals, would I need a release form? It's something I want to do someday, but I wanted to get accepted first. |
Yeah Zoo Animals can be a problem.
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christian900
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:49 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | christian900 wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | christian900 wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | It is OOF with WB/lighting problems. |
Oh. Isn't it copyrighted as well? So that I know if I may use those plates again. |
More then likely. |
So the copyrighted pictures are anything antique and with a design. And buildings with logos.
I was wondering though. If I went to a zoo and took pictures of animals, would I need a release form? It's something I want to do someday, but I wanted to get accepted first. |
Yeah Zoo Animals can be a problem. |
Oh, ok. I think I'll get a release form no matter what public place I go to then. It's better to be safe than sorry. Thank you for the advice, I'll keep trying.
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