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mg7
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:46 pm
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What does make me Canadian then?
Sorry if I derailed the OP's topic.
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semmickphoto
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:49 pm
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Like I said, your passport. Citizenship. If you applied for Canadian citizenship you are Canadian, but you will always be native English.
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mg7
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:57 pm
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So if I took citizenship I'm "English/Canadian"?
If both my parents are English and I was born in Canada, would I be Canadian?
Not picking on you Barry, but trying to understand. Barry was probably born in the USA, one parent Irish, one USA. Would that not make him American.I can't figure why people must address themselves as such. If he wanted to be Irish, then move there.
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semmickphoto
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:06 pm
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| mg7 wrote: | So if I took citizenship I'm "English/Canadian"?
If both my parents are English and I was born in Canada, would I be Canadian? |
If you are born in Canada with English parents and registered as baby in Canada you would be English Canadian I guess.
If you take citizenship you would still be English in my opinion. I live 5 years in Ireland, and I am alleged to apply for an Irish passport but I would still be Dutch.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:16 pm
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| mg7 wrote: | So if I took citizenship I'm "English/Canadian"?
If both my parents are English and I was born in Canada, would I be Canadian?
Not picking on you Barry, but trying to understand. Barry was probably born in the USA, one parent Irish, one USA. Would that not make him American.I can't figure why people must address themselves as such. If he wanted to be Irish, then move there. |
Yes i was born in the USA but since one parent is Irish and one is American and i am a "direct" descendent of each and not twice removed or third generation i call myself Irish American after all most African Americans are born in the states and have no "Direct" relationship to anyone from Africa other then their Great Great Grandfather or second uncle or someone farther down the genetic tree pool.
So if they can be called African American i can use Irish American.
Then we also have Mexican American and Native American.
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mg7
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:25 pm
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I know Barry, it is not specific to just the USA, happens here to and all over the world. Just curious as to WHY people call themselves that way.
Must be a sociology thing.
Thanks for the replies.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:45 pm
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| mg7 wrote: | I know Barry, it is not specific to just the USA, happens here to and all over the world. Just curious as to WHY people call themselves that way.
Must be a sociology thing.
Thanks for the replies. |
It's the benefits they get that go with it from the Government.
Which isn't right but that's just the way it is.
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blinztree
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:22 am
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In a lighter vein, my Asian sides gets all cracked up proper now that Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard may now be considered as an Oriental in a certain quarter of New York. She now may have to politely remind everyone that she is not an Oriental when traveling out of the country.
Australians proudly call them Australians and I understand their patriotic pride in the declaration of their nationality as Americans often do. Australia is officially and technically, part of South East Asia.
Then, there is this case of Xu Xiangshun, a child whose life was shaped by events in the Second World and Civil Wars. I came to know about this case about four years ago while watching documentaries on China. It was heart breaking watching the scene when he met his surviving aunties in Italy. But that does not necessary make him an Oriental, er?
Link: http://articles.latimes.com/2001/dec/23/news/mn-17560
After the Second World War, many British soldiers never returned home and choose to remain in their adopted Asian homelands like Singapore, Malaysia (and in Indonesia, the Dutch... so that would be interesting to you, Ron) and marry a local lass. So just because many Asians have a Chinese name, it does not mean they are Chinese or Orientals. And neither do those with surnames in Asia like Brown, Smith, Carpenter or McFarlane necessary means they are British or Scottish.
The world is so complex and diversed in modern days that sensitivity, common sense and respect are essensil assets in everyday life to nagivate the political, religious and racial minefields. It's not a romantic's or simpleton's haven if one wishes to participate in it.
The governments of young nations like Singapore and Malaysia have understood this since the May 13, 1969 incident and taken strong proactive action to achieve a fair balance so that peace, harmony and prosperity can prevail. They understand that lives, property and peace can be compromised for the want of matured mindsets and sometimes, deliberate cliché douche bag mentalities.
'Colored' is a potential minefield, IMHO when a human subject or theme is tagged to it as a keyword but not to objects like colored pencils. As Mike Price pointed out, it should not be a blanket ban but then making it available, it can always be abused. Again IMHO.
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jmci
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:29 am
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | ...My Mother was Born Irish in Ireland and raised there in County Down and Father Born an American in NC therefore Irish American. |
Not wishing to stir the pot, but if your mother was born and raised in County Down, wouldn't that make her British, at least officially? ;)
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:35 am
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| jmci wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | ...My Mother was Born Irish in Ireland and raised there in County Down and Father Born an American in NC therefore Irish American. |
Not wishing to stir the pot, but if your mother was born and raised in County Down, wouldn't that make her British, at least officially? ;) |
i suppose so but she is Irish either way and always fought against the British Rule and she wrote and sung a song about the fight for freedom from British Rule at all the Pubs.
Rathfriland in County Down.
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jmci
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:10 am
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | jmci wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | ...My Mother was Born Irish in Ireland and raised there in County Down and Father Born an American in NC therefore Irish American. |
Not wishing to stir the pot, but if your mother was born and raised in County Down, wouldn't that make her British, at least officially? ;) |
i suppose so but she is Irish either way and always fought against the British Rule and she wrote and sung a song about the fight for freedom from British Rule at all the Pubs.
Rathfriland in County Down. |
Rathfriland is in a lovely part of the country. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge and many attitudes have changed since the worst days of conflict here, but I expect she still feels homesick at times.
| blinztree wrote: | | ...The world is so complex and diversed in modern days that sensitivity, common sense and respect are essensil assets in everyday life to nagivate the political, religious and racial minefields. |
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