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backwardsghost


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:41 am     Reply with quote

I've taken a few more images and was wondering about more improvements I could make.


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backwardsghost


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:43 am     Reply with quote

Chair


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ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:46 am     Reply with quote

Soft with uneven lighting.
backwardsghost


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:47 am     Reply with quote

Now, I don't have any delusions about this particular photo being any good for stock, but particularly I was wondering about the exposure on this, because the right half of the face seems a bit blown out, but the left half seems to have lots of noise and is lacking in detail in the shadows? So should I have exposed more, or less? Or was it just a bad time of day, or angle in relation to the sun to shoot from?
Also, is it too out of focus?



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backwardsghost


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:47 am     Reply with quote

Which one is soft? The first or second?
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:52 am     Reply with quote

backwardsghost wrote:
Which one is soft? The first or second?
Both.

And i dont think these are a true 100% crop.
backwardsghost


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:59 am     Reply with quote

I've been zooming in on photoshop till it says %100 at the bottom, then cropped as much as was on my screen at the time - what should I be doing?

Also, how could I improve the softness? Both were shot using a tripod and the ten second delay timer
matthi


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:04 am     Reply with quote

backwardsghost wrote:
I've been zooming in on photoshop till it says %100 at the bottom, then cropped as much as was on my screen at the time - what should I be doing?



No. 100% is 100% no matter where your zoom is in PS. What has the zoom of photoshop has to do with the actual imagesize ??

Just take your ORIGINAL, unresized image, use the rectangular crop tool in PS, dial in fixed size 500px / 500px...zoom in at whatever level you see best the part you want to have in crop and cut away

I bet you saw more than 500px in high/wide then if you not have been on a very tiny notebook, have you downsized afterwards to get the 500 ???

photoshop DOES not change the SIZE of any image cause just one is using the zoomtool....imagine what you would end up with..........who told you different ?


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ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:05 am     Reply with quote

So you are cropping the entire screen???

Then i take it you are resizing to 500x500 after that???

Which is improper.
digigandalf


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:10 am     Reply with quote

I like the crop of the piano; that would work better as the whole image, maybe backing out just a tad. Problem with the full image is the piano is in bad shape in many places. Won't really sell as a stock image. The focus is good on the nearer black keys, but falls off quickly before and behind — too shallow DOF.

The bench is soft, not horribly OOF, but too soft to make it. Composition and lighting of the shot are also not the greatest.

The cow is a little soft in focus as well. Lighting would be easier on an overcast day (preferably a bright overcast day); you wouldn't get the blown highlights and deep shadows. Composition is pretty good, even with the animal centered, and the expression on its face with the grass in its mouth is great.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:29 am     Reply with quote

Calm down already, not everyone knows how to get a 100% crop. No need to go anal. And the sticky at the top is 8 pages of yapping about all kinds of different techniques and non related gossip, its confusing to say the least.
backwardsghost


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:32 am     Reply with quote

ruxpriencdiam wrote:
So you are cropping the entire screen???

Then i take it you are resizing to 500x500 after that???

Which is improper.


Yeah, I thought that was how it was done.

Thanks Digigandalf for your feedback, its really good to hear all that. With things like the softness of the chair, what could I be doing to get it clearer? It was shot on a tripod, self timer, at f/10, shutter speed 1/15 second, ISO 200. It was shot at the 18 end of an 18-55mm lens though, but other than that, could there be any other factors in its softness? I'd like to know what I could do so I don't keep repeating the same mistakes

And is the softness of the cow borderline, or definitely too much?
matthi


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:44 am     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
Calm down already, not everyone knows how to get a 100% crop. No need to go anal. And the sticky at the top is 8 pages of yapping about all kinds of different techniques and non related gossip, its confusing to say the least.


wasn´t meant to be "anal" in any way, apologize
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:48 am     Reply with quote

backwardsghost wrote:
ruxpriencdiam wrote:
So you are cropping the entire screen???

Then i take it you are resizing to 500x500 after that???

Which is improper.


Yeah, I thought that was how it was done.

Thanks Digigandalf for your feedback, its really good to hear all that. With things like the softness of the chair, what could I be doing to get it clearer? It was shot on a tripod, self timer, at f/10, shutter speed 1/15 second, ISO 200. It was shot at the 18 end of an 18-55mm lens though, but other than that, could there be any other factors in its softness? I'd like to know what I could do so I don't keep repeating the same mistakes

And is the softness of the cow borderline, or definitely too much?


It usually isn't a good idea to shoot at the ends of a zoom lens. Most of the time those are the weakest areas of the lens.

As far as the focus goes the simple fact of using a tripod and timer will not guarantee a sharply focused image if other areas that deal with focus are not addressed.

For example if you are using manual focus has your diopter been set for your eyes? When you focus what matrix are you using? Spot, closest to camera or some other method? How sturdy is your tripod. A good many tripods people buy are the wrong ones. They by a flimsy one with a pan head from a camera store and those tripods are basically meant for use with a video recorder. A good tripod should be rock steady.
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:35 am     Reply with quote

Agree with Dave, kit zoom lenses are not great at either end.

A good solid HEAVY tripod has no substitute I can recommend an Induro AT 413 with a Wimberley gimbal head, industrial strength support system
 
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