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semmickphoto
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:48 pm
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| jeffbanke wrote: | Pete, yes you can clone out the names.
I don't think the image is too far off the mark, you could apply just a little sharpening, and see what that looks like, but I have seen images that were softer accepted. |
Agree
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S.m.u.d.g.e
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Location: Essex, England.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:36 am
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Ok I've cloned the copyright bits and sharpened a 'tad' (+25 in LR4). Would it be considered a candidate for my 1st 10 submit?
Thanks again.
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S.m.u.d.g.e
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:39 am
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:42 am
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I know you reposted this after taking care of the names etc but I wanted to go into the shot itself a bit more.
I would tend to think that this one would be rejected for lighting and/or composition. A bit under exposed and the stuff on the bottom right side of the shot is distracting to me.
I have a feeling that your meter was thrown off because of the bright portion in the sky combined with the reflections of the water. It though the scene was brighter than it actually was.
As for the stuff in the lower right portion of the image (I think it is the edge of the dock) I think I understand why it is there because it shows the boats kind of beached but I believe it would have been better if it were more prominent. By having such a small portion showing I think the viewer will give that more attention than the overall image itself.
What I do when shooting something like this is I look at everything in the viewfinder to make sure it is just where I want it to be for the shot. If not I try to make whatever adjustments I can by either moving or if necessary changing lenses to get the shot just the way I want it.
I am curious. Do you prefer to shoot in vertical (Portrait) orientation over horizontal (landscape)? Each of the shots you have posted have been in vertical orientation. I'm trying to get an idea of how you approach a potential shot.
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darla
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:57 am
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| S.m.u.d.g.e wrote: | | Full size. |
This is a little complex for a great stock photo, but nice and artsy. If it doesn't go over well as stock, you can always try selling it in an art gallery.
If it helps you get some perspective selecting which of your photos to try to sell, I have nearly 20,000 photos stored on my hard drive. I only have 1100 images in my portfolio, and about half of those are vectors.
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rinder99
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:46 am
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I think you missed a very good opportunity here to Capture a VERY painterly scene with the composition you used. You closed it in with No breathing Space going vertical. As a Fineart Painter this is my View of a Possible very Pleasant scene. It has all the elements, You just didn't see them. Composition Is King and overrules all else.
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S.m.u.d.g.e
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:23 am
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The quality of feedback and encouragement here is fantastic, you give me inspiration.
My approach was to convey the barges at rest with the creek leading out to sea. Me thinks I was swayed by the tall vertical lines of the 'masts'and the way they lean into the shot, though I shoot 'landscape' as well.
The mooring post (front right) is distracting (the more I look) and the subsequent trail of posts is lost in the shot, I might try a 'crop if I can keep it over the 4MB upload barrier.
Dave ,a 3 stop ND grad (soft) is on order to hold back skies, as you rightly observe the exposure is off the mark and it's something i've struggled with for a while. Thanks for all your advice and i'll 'zoom' a little more with my feet though in this instance I was just pleased not to end up in the mud :)
Darla, I might just try that (art gallery).
Rinder, I see what you mean about 'room to breathe' to the left of the barges. There was a lot of junk (modern business units and stuff) which again moved me into portrait I think. Question for me now is arty or stock, no doubt i'll find out along the way.
Cheers again, Pete.
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rinder99
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:50 am
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A bit of Both always works.Remember it's Not ALWAYS about Penny stock My friend. think about Print sales and stuff. The craft of Image making and selling is huge market far beyond this business.All the elements of Landscape composition are in this shot.I replaced it again with a better balance of color.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Location: Third Stone from the Sun
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:50 am
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A step or two to the left would have eliminated the post.
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S.m.u.d.g.e
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:37 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | A bit of Both always works.Remember it's Not ALWAYS about Penny stock My friend. think about Print sales and stuff. The craft of Image making and selling is huge market far beyond this business.All the elements of Landscape composition are in this shot.I replaced it again with a better balance of color. |
Thank you, here's one I took this evening, again your feedback/comments are welcomed, cheers Pete.
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S.m.u.d.g.e
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:38 pm
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S.m.u.d.g.e
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:42 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | A step or two to the left would have eliminated the post. |
~ one more step i'd have been in the mud! :)
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:05 pm
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| S.m.u.d.g.e wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | A step or two to the left would have eliminated the post. |
~ one more step i'd have been in the mud! :) |
I believe Jeff is the one who said that you can tell a good photographer by how much dirt they have on their clothes!
Or something like that.
If you have to get dirty to get the shot you do whatever has to be done.
Looks OOF and you should have waited till the sun started to go below the horizon.
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
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Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:17 pm
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| ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | S.m.u.d.g.e wrote: | | ruxpriencdiam wrote: | | A step or two to the left would have eliminated the post. |
~ one more step i'd have been in the mud! :) |
I believe Jeff is the one who said that you can tell a good photographer by how much dirt they have on their clothes!
Or something like that.
If you have to get dirty to get the shot you do whatever has to be done.
Looks OOF and you should have waited till the sun started to go below the horizon. |
Yep, this is a barn that everyone shoots in the Teton National Park,
but if you lay down in the dirt you can get a far more interesting shot like this
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