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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:13 pm     Reply with quote

Where is the copyright in this? No logos, no numbers, no text, off the rack army boots, mass produced, available in any civil store.

Or is it special mud?



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copidosoma


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:14 pm     Reply with quote

Seriously. Only naked models from now on.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:15 pm     Reply with quote

13 photos rejected on keywords, trademark World Cup. I dont see the phrase world cup and World and Cup as separate words cant be copyrighted.

Quote:
Allah; Art; Cup; Eye; Face; Flag; Green; Man; Red; SIgn; Sheikh; Sports; background; color; country; emblem; expression; face paint; facial; fan; finger paint; follower; freedom; gulf; independence; iran; iranian flag; islam; looking; make up; middle east; nation; paint; passion; patriot; patriotic; persia; pride; republic; revolution; skin; support; supporter; symbol; texture; tricolor; tulip; union; white; world;
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:17 pm     Reply with quote

copidosoma wrote:
Seriously. Only naked models from now on.


Probably will be dinged for copyright on the boob implants ;-)
triceratops


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:27 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
copidosoma wrote:
Seriously. Only naked models from now on.


Probably will be dinged for copyright on the boob implants ;-)


Don't forget ... no tattoos either.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:28 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
13 photos rejected on keywords, trademark World Cup. I dont see the phrase world cup and World and Cup as separate words cant be copyrighted.

Quote:
Allah; Art; Cup; Eye; Face; Flag; Green; Man; Red; SIgn; Sheikh; Sports; background; color; country; emblem; expression; face paint; facial; fan; finger paint; follower; freedom; gulf; independence; iran; iranian flag; islam; looking; make up; middle east; nation; paint; passion; patriot; patriotic; persia; pride; republic; revolution; skin; support; supporter; symbol; texture; tricolor; tulip; union; white; world;


Was there anything in the description regarding the World Cup? Words and phrases in the description are also part of the searchable words. The restricted images section has a World Cup restriction.

I must say I don't understand the boot rejection.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:31 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
13 photos rejected on keywords, trademark World Cup. I dont see the phrase world cup and World and Cup as separate words cant be copyrighted.

Quote:
Allah; Art; Cup; Eye; Face; Flag; Green; Man; Red; SIgn; Sheikh; Sports; background; color; country; emblem; expression; face paint; facial; fan; finger paint; follower; freedom; gulf; independence; iran; iranian flag; islam; looking; make up; middle east; nation; paint; passion; patriot; patriotic; persia; pride; republic; revolution; skin; support; supporter; symbol; texture; tricolor; tulip; union; white; world;



Was there anything in the description regarding the World Cup? Words and phrases in the description are also part of the searchable words. The restricted images section has a World Cup restriction.

I must say I don't understand the boot rejection.


This is a description: Flag painted on face with green eye to show Qatar support

Remember I had my first 20 rejected for keywords? I emailed you about it. So I changed all keywords and removed anything copyrighted. 60 photos accepted with the exact same keywords, except for country names and flag descriptions.

Also, I had 3 more of the boots rejected. So all in all, again 17 rejections that I do not understand. Its so much work getting it all resubmitted again with notes, explaining, etc, etc.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:25 pm     Reply with quote

Maybe it is the eyelets and that could be a distinguishing mark on them?


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vladi79


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:39 pm     Reply with quote

One of my images was rejected for a word " Bath ".
Somehow they think it could be some sort of a trademark.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:44 am     Reply with quote

@ Barry, if thats the case, then its taken way too far. Its a mass product.


@ Vladi, thats just weird
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:03 pm     Reply with quote

Keyword cup had to be removed.

And the boots are the main focal point and therefore a risk.

Dont understand this then:
http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?searchterm=army+boots&search_group=&lang=en&search_source=search_form

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104822177/stock-photo-black-leather-army-boots.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104354138/stock-photo-the-high-black-leather-boots-isolated-on-white-background.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104110493/stock-photo-old-and-dirty-military-shoes-on-white-background.html
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:16 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
Keyword cup had to be removed.

And the boots are the main focal point and therefore a risk.

Dont understand this then:
http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?searchterm=army+boots&search_group=&lang=en&search_source=search_form

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104822177/stock-photo-black-leather-army-boots.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104354138/stock-photo-the-high-black-leather-boots-isolated-on-white-background.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104110493/stock-photo-old-and-dirty-military-shoes-on-white-background.html


Did you ask them about the dependency and why yours are not good and the others are? Some of the numbers of the ones already there seem to be pretty new.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:20 pm     Reply with quote

hhltdave5 wrote:


Did you ask them about the dependency and why yours are not good and the others are? Some of the numbers of the ones already there seem to be pretty new.


This is what I asked them:

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Thank you for the quick reply.

What needs to be cloned out to get these accepted? These shoes are mass produced like any other boot you have on the site.

I checked your restrictions before I submitted them and there is nothing about boots or army boots. And I checked the site before submitting:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?searchterm=army+boots&search_group=&lang=en&search_source=search_form

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104822177/stock-photo-black-leather-army-boots.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104354138/stock-photo-the-high-black-leather-boots-isolated-on-white-background.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104110493/stock-photo-old-and-dirty-military-shoes-on-white-background.html

These examples are army boots isolations, cant get more prominent than that. Accepted in the last month. And you have over 1600 photos of army boots. Mine are not any different in my humble opinion.

Please let me know what to do, so you can accept them.

Thanks
Ronald
evaners


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:52 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
hhltdave5 wrote:


Did you ask them about the dependency and why yours are not good and the others are? Some of the numbers of the ones already there seem to be pretty new.


This is what I asked them:

Quote:
Thank you for the quick reply.

What needs to be cloned out to get these accepted? These shoes are mass produced like any other boot you have on the site.

I checked your restrictions before I submitted them and there is nothing about boots or army boots. And I checked the site before submitting:

http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?searchterm=army+boots&search_group=&lang=en&search_source=search_form

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104822177/stock-photo-black-leather-army-boots.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104354138/stock-photo-the-high-black-leather-boots-isolated-on-white-background.html
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-104110493/stock-photo-old-and-dirty-military-shoes-on-white-background.html

These examples are army boots isolations, cant get more prominent than that. Accepted in the last month. And you have over 1600 photos of army boots. Mine are not any different in my humble opinion.

Please let me know what to do, so you can accept them.

Thanks
Ronald


DOH! You just gave them ammunition to reject them for "Too many on site" :-)
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:01 pm     Reply with quote

They still accept flowers with over 1,724,314 on site

1600 is nothing.
 
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