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jutia


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:07 pm     Reply with quote

criticism please


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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:10 pm     Reply with quote

You are already in and you have gotten so much advise, you should be able to do it on your own by now? No?

You are over thinking the shot. Fruit and vegetables mixed to make what?

Fresh, chunky Mexican-style tomato salsa, or salsa cruda, should emphasize the flavor of tomatoes, with the other traditional flavors (lime, garlic, onion, chile, and cilantro) playing supporting roles. And the texture should be just right for scooping onto a tortilla chip.
jutia


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:24 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
You are already in and you have gotten so much advise, you should be able to do it on your own by now? No?

You are over thinking the shot. Fruit and vegetables mixed to make what?

Fresh, chunky Mexican-style tomato salsa, or salsa cruda, should emphasize the flavor of tomatoes, with the other traditional flavors (lime, garlic, onion, chile, and cilantro) playing supporting roles. And the texture should be just right for scooping onto a tortilla chip.



thank you very much for your comments,
I was advised to pull the trigger until my fingers bleed and I try to do

excuse if I ask really abusing their opinions, although I'm not really sure of my technique, but if I'm being foolish I apologize


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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:26 pm     Reply with quote

No no, you are not foolish
jutia


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:30 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
No no, you are not foolish


excuse me I meant abusive
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:30 pm     Reply with quote

jutia wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
No no, you are not foolish


excuse me I meant abusive


You are also not abusive
copidosoma


Joined: 17 Nov 2009
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:36 pm     Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with trying to get advice on images (it isn't foolish, or abusive etc). But, I think the point here is that now that you have been accepted, you can send in what you want. See what works and what doesn't. Learn by doing.

Come back to the critique forum occasionally for images that you aren't sure about to see if others think it is worthwhile but in general, take the best images you can and submit them. See what sticks.

Having said that, with this image, the colours look a bit flat. Overall the image doesn't seem to have a strong subject. What are these ingredients used to make (looks like chutney or something to me)? Maybe have some of the final product surrounded with the ingredients or something?
jutia


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:37 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
jutia wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
No no, you are not foolish


excuse me I meant abusive


You are also not abusive

ok excuse me, but that thought is not my intention
royster


Joined: 19 Apr 2009
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Location: England/Greece

Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:55 pm     Reply with quote

As the others have said upload your images and you may be surprised by how many get accepted.
If they get refused you can always post here to ask for some advice.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:56 pm     Reply with quote

The problem with this shot is mainly two things. First you have some bad light fall off from the front to back. See how much darker the back of the shot is?

I also agree that I do not really see how these ingredients come together. You have lemons, limes, onions, tomatoes, what looks like carrots and perhaps mangoes? Is it meant to be just a bunch of ingredients or are they meant to show something?

Once you are accepted what you need to do is start moving forward and improving on what you have already submitted. Make sure that your shots have a clear concept and you watch the details to make sure that each shot is the best in can be.
kellythorson


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:30 pm     Reply with quote

Critique / Tips / Tricks
A place where submitters can review/evaluate/critique each others work


IMO there is nothing wrong at all with posting work here even if you are in. If you have questions or concerns or just want opinions about a certain image, then this is certainly the place to show it.
And yes you can just submit it and see if it gets accepted, but that really won't alert you to it's strengths and weaknesses, in addition, it may be rejected for something that is easily fixable, but you may not have the objectivity to see it yourself.
gabes1976


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:34 pm     Reply with quote

I keep hearing people say that once you're in, submit stuff and see what happens. If you get an image accepted that you know really shouldn't have at 100%, are you just glad it got through, or do you fix it up and replace it later?

This is not directed towards this image, Jutia.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:37 pm     Reply with quote

kellythorson wrote:
Critique / Tips / Tricks
A place where submitters can review/evaluate/critique each others work


IMO there is nothing wrong at all with posting work here even if you are in. If you have questions or concerns or just want opinions about a certain image, then this is certainly the place to show it.
And yes you can just submit it and see if it gets accepted, but that really won't alert you to it's strengths and weaknesses, in addition, it may be rejected for something that is easily fixable, but you may not have the objectivity to see it yourself.


I for one, completely agree with you. Whenever I occasionally ask for advise here I get hammered over it. Which I dont get either. HOwever...

All I was wondering about is that the OP has had so many advise on food photography that he should be ready to do it on his own. As you can see on my first post, I ended the sentence with a question mark. And at some point you need to be able to do it on your own, if you dont progress, its going to be a slow and rough ride.
gabes1976


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:07 pm     Reply with quote

semmickphoto wrote:
kellythorson wrote:
Critique / Tips / Tricks
A place where submitters can review/evaluate/critique each others work


IMO there is nothing wrong at all with posting work here even if you are in. If you have questions or concerns or just want opinions about a certain image, then this is certainly the place to show it.
And yes you can just submit it and see if it gets accepted, but that really won't alert you to it's strengths and weaknesses, in addition, it may be rejected for something that is easily fixable, but you may not have the objectivity to see it yourself.


I for one, completely agree with you. Whenever I occasionally ask for advise here I get hammered over it. Which I dont get either. HOwever...

All I was wondering about is that the OP has had so many advise on food photography that he should be ready to do it on his own. As you can see on my first post, I ended the sentence with a question mark. And at some point you need to be able to do it on your own, if you dont progress, its going to be a slow and rough ride.


I completely agree with Kelly. What's wrong with occasionally asking for advice? There's a lot of expert experience in this room.

Ron, do you agree with Kelly (asking for advice) or not? I'm confused.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:14 pm     Reply with quote

gabes1976 wrote:
semmickphoto wrote:
kellythorson wrote:
Critique / Tips / Tricks
A place where submitters can review/evaluate/critique each others work


IMO there is nothing wrong at all with posting work here even if you are in. If you have questions or concerns or just want opinions about a certain image, then this is certainly the place to show it.
And yes you can just submit it and see if it gets accepted, but that really won't alert you to it's strengths and weaknesses, in addition, it may be rejected for something that is easily fixable, but you may not have the objectivity to see it yourself.


I for one, completely agree with you. Whenever I occasionally ask for advise here I get hammered over it. Which I dont get either. HOwever...

All I was wondering about is that the OP has had so many advise on food photography that he should be ready to do it on his own. As you can see on my first post, I ended the sentence with a question mark. And at some point you need to be able to do it on your own, if you dont progress, its going to be a slow and rough ride.


I completely agree with Kelly. What's wrong with occasionally asking for advice? There's a lot of expert experience in this room.

Ron, do you agree with Kelly (asking for advice) or not? I'm confused.


I marked what I said in bold. I cannot see for the life of me how that can be explained any other way as that I agree with Kelly.
 
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