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semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:37 am     Reply with quote

Karin, dont give up. I am not shooting trad stock either and try to mix it with the artistic side of photography. You can shoot strong concepts which are a lot of fun to do.

On breaking the rules, this is an example where the rules are broken, but where it works. There is no rule of thirds here, you are sucked in straight to the centre of the photo.



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rinder99


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:03 pm     Reply with quote

Actually it's another rule. Vanishing Point.Also leading Lines. Nice eye Ron.
semmickphoto


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:17 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
Actually it's another rule. Vanishing Point.Also leading Lines. Nice eye Ron.


Thanks Laurin :)

I got hung up on the rules of thirds, doh.
Karin Babin


Joined: 16 Jul 2012
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Location: Calgary, AB

Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:18 pm     Reply with quote

Wow, you guys are great! I log back in and I have all this help and support! I have to give serious kuddos to you all, I already lurked all your portfolios and websites (mostly to see if I could take you seriously, haha) the other day. You are all very talented, I feel humbled to have this help and support from you all. Ron, LOVE that photo. Anyone wanna move to Calgary and be my shooting buddy? I bake a mean cookie for shooting excursions!

Maybe someone can help me shed some light on something. I shoot with a Nikon D300. I have an awesome old lens that takes the most amazing portraits. It's a Nikkor-s 55mm f1.2. It's fully manual because it's about 50 years old, leaded glass and all. Now, when I set my f-stop at say 1.2 my camera shows 0, if I set it at 8 it shows 5, or 11 it shows 6. So which is right, and what's the relationship between the lens and the camera in this case?
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm     Reply with quote

I saw that on your exif data and perhaps it is from being a old film lens but wait for Laurin he is more familiar with the different lenses.
Karin Babin


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:07 am     Reply with quote

I don't think I posted any I took with the 55mm, but I did with the 100mm. I love old glass, it gives the photos something, I dunno, extra. I actually did a bunch of test shots to try and figure out the f-stop confusion, since I normally just guess, and my DOF is still too shallow. This was done with my 100. Unfortunately, the wind moved the leaf over just as I snapped the shot, but it still came out ok enough for the purpose of this post. And just look at that adorable old man face! I don't think you need 100% crop for my question.

So, bright daylight, big green field, in the shade of a tree, what settings would everyone else use (without the lens/camera f-stop confusion)?

I set my ISO and WB to auto as I was in and out of the sun, 1/125, and I think lens set at 4, or maybe it was 5.6? But what would be the magic number on something this small?

And the others I took for fun with my daughter yesterday, any better on the composition? I think a little more blue sky for the glass slipper shot? Does it feel a little heavy on the bottom?

For the balcony shot, does the tree on the left kill it? I can't PS it out because the shadow on the steps would look odd, and I couldn't cut it down due to legalities, and logistic issues haha. Any other angle I couldn't get my girl and the steps the way I wanted.

Is this post getting too long? We're on page 3.



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Karin Babin


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:08 am     Reply with quote

I followed instructions and they are all still blury! I'm going to youtube this thing.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:32 am     Reply with quote

Karin Babin wrote:
I followed instructions and they are all still blury! I'm going to youtube this thing.
Because they are OOF{:o(

And i saved one of yours i will post the exif data in a minute for you to see.
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:36 am     Reply with quote

Here is the one i looked at yesterday.


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Karin Babin


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:02 am     Reply with quote

My precious old man dragon fly is because of the wind, but the other 2 aren't! I even blew them up to like 250% to make super extra sure before I shrunk them. OK, I changed some PS settings. Now this one is perfectly in focus, so let's see if it posts any better. This is a test, I googled how to resize this baby and changed some settings so fingers crossed.

How do you pull up that data??



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Karin Babin


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:03 am     Reply with quote

Nope. And it's not just me, I recruited a fresh second pair of eyes. Anyway, it's midnight again, I'm off to bed. Good night!
ruxpriencdiam


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:47 am     Reply with quote

There are a few ways to get the data.

Now how to post is simple.

First we need the whole and complete image so all you do is take the image to post and resize it to no more then 500x500 and "SAVE AS" something other then the original.

Now for the crop just magnify or zoom in to 100% now crop out an area that is supposed to be in focus no bigger then 500x500 and if it is larger then 500x500 whatever you do "DO NOT RE-SIZE!" If it is too large then crop off more until you get to or below the 500x500 size and then you can "SAVE AS."

Here are some links that may be of some help.

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=117778

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42889&start=0

http://submit.shutterstock.com/newsletter/109/article1.html
jeffbanke


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:21 am     Reply with quote

Karin Babin wrote:
Wow, you guys are great! I log back in and I have all this help and support! I have to give serious kuddos to you all, I already lurked all your portfolios and websites (mostly to see if I could take you seriously, haha) the other day. You are all very talented, I feel humbled to have this help and support from you all. Ron, LOVE that photo. Anyone wanna move to Calgary and be my shooting buddy? I bake a mean cookie for shooting excursions!

Maybe someone can help me shed some light on something. I shoot with a Nikon D300. I have an awesome old lens that takes the most amazing portraits. It's a Nikkor-s 55mm f1.2. It's fully manual because it's about 50 years old, leaded glass and all. Now, when I set my f-stop at say 1.2 my camera shows 0, if I set it at 8 it shows 5, or 11 it shows 6. So which is right, and what's the relationship between the lens and the camera in this case?



I shoot with a D300, D100 and a D70s, and besides my rather expensive 24-70mm f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 lenses, I also shoot with my older film lenses, frequently using a 24mm, 35mm, and 50mm f1.4 or 1.8 lens, and a 55mm Macro lens. These are all manual lenses, which means that they cannot connect to the electronics in any of these cameras, and as such the aperture reading is going to be incorrect in the camera. So, use the physical setting on the lens as this is still correct.
Karin Babin


Joined: 16 Jul 2012
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Location: Calgary, AB

Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:17 am     Reply with quote

Well, that was an easy answer! Thank you Jeff.

Now the problem with the photos is when I shrink them. Not sure why when I downsize them, they become very pixelated and just look terrible all around. I've read on several forums that others are having the same issue, but so far haven't been able to find a solution.
semmickphoto


Joined: 12 Feb 2012
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Location: Stuck between a shutter and a hard place

Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:19 am     Reply with quote

If you downsize and save, you need to save in highest quality.
 
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