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Jelena Aloskina
Joined: 07 Jun 2012
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:41 am
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Not the best day I have now... only 1 image was accepted from the whole 40 images batch.
The reasons are astonishingly varied.
Film grain (!?), noise, overuse of noice reduction, autotracing (what is it?), rough edges, poor lighting, uneven lighting, OOF, copiright (for devices produced in former USSR more than 50 years ago), and composition.
Following 5 images are rejected only by composition issue. Would you tell me, please, what is wrong in composition here?
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Jelena Aloskina
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:42 am
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tverkhovynets
Joined: 12 Jun 2010
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Location: Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:56 am
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get down when shooting animals ;)
Also avoid elements which distract attention.
Taras
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matthi
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:05 am
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snapshots, I'm afraid....
to photograph animals your best bet is to go down to their eye level, shooting them from up side down just how you were standing does not make it at all
you have also problems with light, and they are out of focus, a 500by500px cut out of their eyes would proof that and is recommended, otherwise posting for critique here is half pointless
you also run a "strange" filter over the animal shots, nik or something ??
don´t use anything of that kind, on average shots, in very rare occasions that might make sense but not here
it´s very hard to direct an animal to pose for a photograph, and that is true for a lot of children 2, so one comes to the shots you have here, just take them as found, hoping that at least they don´t run away in that moment...
try something else, the limited commercial value is another point to mention, so there is no point to go any further with this subject
the poker one is just flat, and has non "drama"...think about framing and composition when you take your photos, pressing the shutter should be the very last step in such a process
they reject just for 1 reason, even these suffer a lot reasons
and think of composition to be something happening in a 3 dimensional space, it´s not a 2 dimensional task about where to place the subject into the frame if not also the angle of the cam, the distance to the subject and a long etc
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Jelena Aloskina
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:35 am
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| matthi wrote: | | they reject just for 1 reason, even these suffer a lot reasons |
As I can see, they write ALL reasons in mailing
(not in shutterstock contrubutor area, where only one reason mentioned).
For each rejected picture I'm getting from 1 to 3 messages into my mailbox, each mail contains 1 to 7 reasons of rejection for each image.
So, I think, these pictures have only composition problem... in other case it would be rejected by OOF reason first.
>>to photograph animals your best bet is to go down
>>to their eye level
Thanks. Will try.
>>you also run a "strange" filter over the animal
>>shots, nik or something ??
No. Just UV filter, nothing else.
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Jelena Aloskina
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:39 am
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| tverkhovynets wrote: | | get down when shooting animals ;) |
But how how to do it with a tripod?
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Also avoid elements which distract attention.
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Almost impossible :) Animals do not agree.
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darla
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:46 am
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| Jelena Aloskina wrote: |
Almost impossible :) Animals do not agree. |
Are you a photographer, or not? If you want to get good pictures of animals, you'll have to work at it, like everyone else.
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matthi
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:56 am
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| Jelena Aloskina wrote: | | tverkhovynets wrote: | | get down when shooting animals ;) |
But how how to do it with a tripod?
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Also avoid elements which distract attention.
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Almost impossible :) Animals do not agree. |
I would not even consider to use a tripod for non static objects, and if the cat can lay on that floor, you can, but once again, even then, it will always turn out LCV
meanwhile I see how you tried to catch them static while they were SO CUTE while sleeping, cats are not dumb and we can see in your pictures the surprising moment when they figured you out....
and for the "serious dog", he is serious about what ? about you taking photos of him in a non adequate position ? where is he looking at ?
as said before, it´s hard if not even impossible to direct an animal, so when you shoot 10 or 20 in a row hoping for the lucky moment the dog is looking in the camera, then you are lucky, and the rest should be just deleted from everywhere, otherwise it will cost you more on hard disks then you can make out of the acceptable one ;)
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matthi
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:10 am
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| Jelena Aloskina wrote: |
So, I think, these pictures have only composition problem... in other case it would be rejected by OOF reason first.
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"only composition problems" ?? composition is just everything. all the rest comes long after, and also as said before, there is more to composition then the so called "rule of thirds", it´s the viewpoint, the angle of the cam, the distance to the subject etc pp
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rinder99
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:20 am
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A UV filter does not cause an Image to look Like that. I agree with the reviewer on these for whatever reason.Not very good Im afraid in Many ways.
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Jelena Aloskina
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:27 am
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| matthi wrote: |
and for the "serious dog", he is serious about what ? about you taking photos of him in a non adequate position ? where is he looking at ? |
:)
It is wild rural dog. He is very serious about any person who directs anything to him. He avoids eye contact... just a few seconds before to show fangs.
>>"only composition problems" ?? composition is just
>>everything.
Sorry, I know that my english is not perfect.
I just had in mind that the composition problem is MAJOR problem in this case, and looking advice just about composition (so, not caring about focus, colors, lighting.... and therefore don't show 100% crop)
Thank you for advices :)
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Jelena Aloskina
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:35 am
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| rinder99 wrote: | | A UV filter does not cause an Image to look Like that. |
I do not argue with the reviewer. Just try to understand what I do wrong.
Are colors wrong on pics?
I've got a free trial of Photoshop CS6 with Camera Raw function, and use it on them (instead of my usual DPP).
But, as for me, there are native colors.
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Jelena Aloskina
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:55 am
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| darla wrote: | | Jelena Aloskina wrote: |
Almost impossible :) Animals do not agree. |
Are you a photographer, or not? If you want to get good pictures of animals, you'll have to work at it, like everyone else. |
Just had in mind that animals do not agree migrate to another, less distracting, background.
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