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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:08 pm
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OK any help would be appreciated with this i know it can be done but i just cant find what i am looking for to do it!
I have a ""WIRED" desktop that of course is non wireless and has to have an Ethernet cable tied to it.
Next i have a Verizon MIFI that i get my wireless from for all of my wireless computers that works fine and there is no way to wire anything to it.
So what i want to do is get the non wireless desktop to be able to receive the signal from the wireless MIFI directly from the signal being broadcast from the MIFI.
There has got to be some type of a receiver that i can put in a USB port or somewhere so the computer will receive the signal.
They make all kinds that work as long as you have a router that of course is wired to an Ethernet cable which of course i dont have but i do have a wireless router that of course needs to be hooked up to the Ethernet cable but that wont work because the MIFI has no outputs on it it is just a transmitter of a wireless signal.
Any ideas?
Jeff, Russ anybody??
Thanks again.
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cpaulfell
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ruxpriencdiam
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triceratops
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:30 pm
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What do you have in/on your existing wireless computers that allows them to receive a signal from your MIFI?
I'm not familiar with this unit, but it looks interesting.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:39 pm
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| triceratops wrote: | What do you have in/on your existing wireless computers that allows them to receive a signal from your MIFI?
I'm not familiar with this unit, but it looks interesting. |
No idea my computers were wireless when i bought them.
The MIFI transmits a wireless signal that any wireless device can pickup and use for internet service, i get it through Verizon, i could also use my phone but if i got a call i couldn't use the internet and would have to be disconnected till i was done with the call so that is why i use the MIFI device.
But that USB device will only work if you are using a router that gets its signal from either cable or satellite and then it transfers the signal two ways one by wire (Ethernet cable) and one by air.
Whereas my MIFI receives it's signal through the air and transmits it through the air.
No wires, no cables, no inputs and no outputs only a charging port to charge the device.
This should be pretty easy for me to do because i mess around with communication for car computers and all kinds of electronic equipment like guitars amps stereos and more and always have a goodie bag full of crap to use and i have gone online and to stores and looked for a way to hook this up and i just need to find something that can pull a signal out of the air and put it into the computer somehow??????
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triceratops
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:05 pm
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Most receivers have no way of knowing how a signal is processed and handled. All they know is there is a signal in the air that they can receive, so long as the frequency matches what they can detect and the encoding is something they recognize. I don't know about the Belkin receiver, but there are others out there (I have one on another computer made by NETGEAR). You can buy a card that plugs into a bus inside the computer that does the same thing, but it basically does the same as the USB plugin. The MIFI web site makes no mention of needing a special receiver so you might try contacting them to see what's going on. The fact that you have other computers with built-in receivers makes me suspicious that you've got something else going on here.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:47 pm
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| triceratops wrote: | | Most receivers have no way of knowing how a signal is processed and handled. All they know is there is a signal in the air that they can receive, so long as the frequency matches what they can detect and the encoding is something they recognize. I don't know about the Belkin receiver, but there are others out there (I have one on another computer made by NETGEAR). You can buy a card that plugs into a bus inside the computer that does the same thing, but it basically does the same as the USB plugin. The MIFI web site makes no mention of needing a special receiver so you might try contacting them to see what's going on. The fact that you have other computers with built-in receivers makes me suspicious that you've got something else going on here. |
I have talked to Belkin and they dont make anything that will do what i am talking about having done.
All of the USB receivers can only recieve a signal from a "ROUTER" they can not receive a wireless signal from a wireless provider because of the code or something.
That is where a router comes in it transmits a signal that the USB device recognizes but it can only do it from a signal that is coming in being wired and then sending it back out wireless to any computer you plug the USB receiver into.
So tell me about the one you have from Netgear cause i just looked at that today and it wont work without a router.
| Quote: | Netgear N1500 Wireless USB Adapter:
Connects PCs to the Internet using Wireless-G or Wireless-N routers
Push N Connect secures the connection to a wireless router
Includes adapter cradle for desktop computers
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So how do you get your internet service?
Is it cable or satellite or something else?
See when i had satellite the USB device worked great on a non wireless desktop my Daughter had because the signal from the Satellite came into the Satellite receiver and went directly out of there and into the router which then would transmit the signal wirelessly to the USB receiver that was in the non wireless computer.
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jeffbanke
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:43 pm
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OK, I have two systems that I have two different (the Wireless system at my Hayward house is a Lynksys wireless-G 2.4GHz broadband router, the other at my West Point home is a newer G+N Belkin router)
In both cases the output of the router feeds a modem, one was suppled by Comcast, and the other the local provider (Volcano).
These routers also have some connectors allowing some computers to be connected using ethernet cabling.
For example my iMac and My other Windows 7 computer are hard wired using ethernet, but my wife's desktop uses a USB port Linksys transceiver (transmitter/receiver)
My laptop and her laptop obviously came with built-in transceivers.
Most other desktops can be connected by purchasing a card that is placed internally in one of the card slots inside, and typically have an antenna sticking up at the back.
http://www.amazon.com/802-11g-Wireless-WIFI-Adapter-Desktop/dp/B003OBHE60
I am a bit confused by the Verizon MIFI thingy you are talking about.
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:03 pm
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| jeffbanke wrote: | OK, I have two systems that I have two different (the Wireless system at my Hayward house is a Lynksys wireless-G 2.4GHz broadband router, the other at my West Point home is a newer G+N Belkin router)
In both cases the output of the router feeds a modem, one was suppled by Comcast, and the other the local provider (Volcano).
These routers also have some connectors allowing some computers to be connected using ethernet cabling.
For example my iMac and My other Windows 7 computer are hard wired using ethernet, but my wife's desktop uses a USB port Linksys transceiver (transmitter/receiver)
My laptop and her laptop obviously came with built-in transceivers.
Most other desktops can be connected by purchasing a card that is placed internally in one of the card slots inside, and typically have an antenna sticking up at the back.
http://www.amazon.com/802-11g-Wireless-WIFI-Adapter-Desktop/dp/B003OBHE60
I am a bit confused by the Verizon MIFI thingy you are talking about. |
So now the real question is is does this work without a router because my MIFI is not a router but it is the modem, the transmitter and receiver for the internet all as one the signal it gets is wireless and it sends a wireless but yours Jeff you say each one has a router meaning you have a wired signal going into a modem and then being transmitted wirelessly.
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Mike Price
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:13 pm
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As long as your system provides the wireless signal that you can pick up with your lap top the USB receiver will pick it up in exactly the same way. The computer will then show it as an available wireless network that you can connect too.
Mike
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jeffbanke
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:17 pm
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The system looks like this
Computer 1+2 - Hardwire to - Router - hard wire to - Modem
Computer 3+4 - Wireless to same router
So if your Verizon MIFI is the modem and router all in one, either a USB or an internal wifi should connect to it.
I believe you said your daughters laptop wifi connected to it?
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:33 pm
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| Mike Price wrote: | As long as your system provides the wireless signal that you can pick up with your lap top the USB receiver will pick it up in exactly the same way. The computer will then show it as an available wireless network that you can connect too.
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This is what i thought but from what i am finding out is that it doesn't work for some reason and most all of the USB devices require a signal from a router which i dont have.
My signal comes from my MIFI Modem and not a router.
And as i have said i called Belkin and asked if they have or make what i need and they told me no.
And i have looked at the USB devices and on the box it states that you need to use them with a router.
And the one i have from Belkin with a disc for it tells me it cannot connect or something like that.
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jeffbanke
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:37 pm
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It really doesn't make any sense then Barry, ALL routers use the same system, and if you have other computers connected the Verizon MIFI, any computer should connect to it using the same technology.
I found this:
The good: The Verizon Jetpack 4G LTE Mobile Hotspot MiFi 4620L by Novatel Wireless provides fast Internet access to up to 10 devices at a time, supports Wireless-N, and has many features. The compact router has long battery life, especially with the included double-capacity battery.
The bad: The Verizon Jetpack MiFi 4620L comes with expensive and limited data plans and doesn't support Wi-Fi Protected Setup, and there's no way to wake it remotely.
Wow found this, and not really good press
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/wifi/verizon-wireless-4g-lte-mobile-hotspot-mifi-4510l.aspx
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ruxpriencdiam
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:45 pm
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| jeffbanke wrote: | | I believe you said your daughters laptop wifi connected to it? |
Only when we were hardwired and we are no longer hardwired, everything is wireless except for the desktop that i dont want to just have sitting around when i could have it working.
I have a few diagrams hang on. And a picture.
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