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adamfilip


Joined: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 9

Post Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 10:04 am     Reply with quote

its great that they now accept vectors

it would be even better if they processed them a little faster
I have three waiting to be approved since april 24 - thats 9 days

I mean common!
StuartE


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 1606
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Post Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 8:11 pm     Reply with quote

You're sure you don't mean 'come on' rather than common?? :-)

Cheers,
Stuart
Nay


Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 1
Location: New Mexico

Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:27 am     Reply with quote

Well, I tried..I submitted two files, one as an eps file and one with the matching name as a jpg file...I waited a long time for the jpg to show as being uploaded, but never saw it..
Is that normal, or shud I upload it separate with a note to the reviewer that it shud accompany the eps file.???
And shud the jpg with the eps meet the size requirement of 2.5 MB ???
I'm new on the site, and need explaining to (grin)
Thanks to all...
bluliq


Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 337

Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:42 am     Reply with quote

your eps file an jpg file must have exact the same filename.
jpg is use for thumb.
i send jpg as 800x 600(close to).
joseph


Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 267
Location: San Juan Puerto Rico, la isla del encanto!

Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:44 am     Reply with quote

I work my victor files in Illustrator CS
I go to "save as Illustrator.eps"
and then right there I export the file as .jpg (RGB) high quality
I make sure that both files have the same name except for the format ending .eps or .jpg of course.

Now, there have been times when I also have not seen the Image when uploading or when its pennding approval. After approval then its all good.
I have never had any problems with the victor files that I have uploaded so far.

Good luck.

Joe
bluliq


Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 337

Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:46 am     Reply with quote

if your eps file is to big and in that file you do not have raster just scale down and your file will be smaller
joy1975


Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 9

Post Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:02 pm     Reply with quote

My vectors have been really slow to get approved in the last 3 weeks. Is anyone else having this problem? Before that I would submit and get approval within a matter of hours. That was great!

I guess it could be that more vectors are coming in. But the approval time went from a few hours to 7 days. Weird!

My Gallery:
http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=6015
suckaone


Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Posts: 18
Location: Derry, NH

Post Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:56 pm     Reply with quote

i had a few vectors rejected because "Edges are not filled/joined properly" so i went back and cleaned them up as much as i possibly could, is it ok to resubmit them??
rainedragon


Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 31
Location: Maryland, USA

Post Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:06 am     Reply with quote

Yali wrote:
Have any of the linux fellow travellers here tried autotrace, which automatically traces a bitmap and converts it to a vector. I tried it on some simple b/w outline type photos and it seems to work quite well. You can get a GUI frontend for it called Frontline. Here is a simple sample

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-277397.html

I've really never done anything with vectors before, so I don't even know if stuff like that would sell.

Cheers,

Yali


I'm not sure if anyone has thought of this before, but were they your photos that you traced? If they were not, then technicaly speaking, that's breaking copyright laws.. it's the same as me pulling out the mona lisa and some tracing paper and then selling "my masterpiece"...
rainedragon


Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 31
Location: Maryland, USA

Post Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:08 am     Reply with quote

DiscoInferno wrote:
Pixelpizzazz wrote:
I think you can get a trial download of at the Adobe website (but I don't think it lets you save your images - not sure though - but maybe it's good to try before you buy).


Hi everyone, it's my first post here.

The trial download is a 30-day version, and it works just like the full version for those 30 days.
But it's big, about 115 mb to download I think.

Macromedia Flash can export to .eps too. But I guess it's a bit more jerky with the timeline and all.


//Jari


odd... perhaps they changed the free trial of adobe? last time I downloaded it (nearly a year ago) they did have the save option disabled (I wanted to kill it too, because I had downloaded simply to re-save my vector school work as jpgs)
garageartstudio


Joined: 01 Jul 2005
Posts: 5

Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:12 am     Reply with quote

Just upload art and then noticed the small little vector info button that explained how to upload eps illustrations.
thom


Joined: 18 Aug 2005
Posts: 6

Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:53 pm     Reply with quote

shutterstock wrote:
We now accept .eps illustrations in vector format!

The 2nd file is a jpeg preview of that vector. Each file should be named the same - except for the extension. So:

1) vector_example.jpg
2) vector_example.eps



What are the size expectations for these files?

• Maximum MB's? (eps & preview JPG)
• Maximum Resolution? (preview JPG)
• Maximum DPI? (preview JPG)

Also, will any of these technical parameters for EPS files have a consequence on uploads?

• Page Size?
• Compression Type?
• Embedding ICC Profile?
• No White Spaces, Special Characters?
• Supress Filter Dialogue?
• Image Header (include or not?)
• If Include Image Header - TIFF or WMF?
• Export Text As: Curves? Text?
• Color Management: Use Color Profile or No?
• Set Internal Bitmaps as; CMYK, RGB, or Grayscale?
• Maintain OPI links?
• Auto Increase Fountain Steps?
• Fountain Steps: Maximum Number?
• Postscript Level 1, 2, or 3?
• Trapping: (preserve overprint areas, always overprint black)?
• Bounding Box: Object or Page?
• Bleed Area (maximum inches)?
• Floating Point Numbers?
• Auto Spreading: (fixed width, or max.pts & text above how many pts)?
pjmorley


Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 3061

Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:47 pm     Reply with quote

??? Sounds complicated to me.

I just save mine as .eps and a smaller .jpg version for preview purposes as the instructions say. They've always uploaded no problems. Save as version 8 to ensure maximum compatibility.
thom


Joined: 18 Aug 2005
Posts: 6

Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:16 pm     Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge EPS is not the strictest, most true form of 'vector' file because bitmap elements can be contained and exported within the EPS files along with true vector elements. (2 years outputting to a pre-press film maker for a printing company taught me that.)

Some examples of 'truest' vector would be: DXF, DWG, FC, PLT. These file types do however require propreitary programs and output machines suited to specific tasks. (tangent plotters, CAS & CAM machines, etc.){most true vector formats can be printed via small inkjet, but originally, before large format inkjets came along, the vector formats were needed for output to large scale X-Y axis machines such as tangent plotters etc. mentioned above.}

Hence, EPS's incredible popularity. It bridges the gap between 'true' vector and raster imaging, and is widely importable/exportable to many programs, operating systems and machines.

All that having been said, one of the benefits of vector (EPS if you will) is as has been posted here already by other posters; it's scalability. Keep in mind that if you put any bitmap elements into your EPS file, those elements will have the same limitations as any other raster (bitmap)image. Only the vector elements will be scalable (without degradation) and capable of being output to any X-Y axis machines.

Although vectors are scalable, that is not their greatest benefit due to the advent of a thing called RIP software.

RIP stands for Raster Image Processing and is used for, you guessed it, 'scaling'. When you need to print an image on a large format printer (think big prints, posters and larger, can be huge even!), you encounter image degradation (looks like crud when enlarged). The RIP software compensates for this through algorithms and other digital tricks to keep the image looking good at big print sizes. You do have to feed the RIP a high resolution, high quality image to start with though.

Which brings us to at least one market that will be buying your vector art, and that is the sign & graphics industry. The one color banners and one or two color window stickers you see everywhere were most likely created and output using a vector machine. (evolutionary descendents of the original X-Y axis pen plotters drafting companys used years ago)

I personally have an Ioline LP-3700 capable of a 30"h x indefinite length letter or graphic with no seem. Works great, have made lots of money with it! This type machine will not output bitmaps however, so I have to design or find 'true' vector images when I use this machine.

The 'latest' breed of these machines in the sign industry is the 'print-cut' type machines. These machines can print anything: bitmap (raster) or vector! They do, however, rely on vector shapes to make any contour or other cuts in the vinyl sticker material.

Some other markets that might buy your designs (considering you have not put any bitmap elements in the file)would be:

• T-Shirt Printers (low volume printers)
• Other Screen Printing (cups,etc.- again low volume)
• Engravers
• Laser Specialties
• Computer Aided Routers

I think it's been mentioned already that some of the programs you would use to make true vectors are: Adobe Illustrator, CorelDraw, and also Auto Cad. There are many others out there, but those seem to be most popular.

Hope any of this is helpful to potential designers out there.

Just my 2 cents worth after having worked in the sign and printing industries for over 20 years.
thom


Joined: 18 Aug 2005
Posts: 6

Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:59 pm     Reply with quote

pjmorley wrote:
??? Sounds complicated to me.


Well, depending on who you're selling to, those parameters will make a difference. For instance, including bleeds for a sign maker who just wants to make stickers on an X-Y axis machine will have no benefit. On the other hand, some commercial paper stock printers will want bleeds, and many screen printers will want trapping enabled to make their color separations look better once printed. On and on the variables go to suit 'specific needs'. All commercial imagers can and do use EPS files, just not necessarily vector-only EPS files however, and not all with the same needs from those EPS files.

Forgive me if I like getting detail, but please do keep in mind that whatever detail I get back from SS will be invaluable to me because I realize SS is not the only place to market my work.

This may give me an opportunity to point out to other professionals in the commercial imaging industry to whom I already sell that, "hey SS may not be the best place to buy your 'specific needs' vector files".

It would also give an edge to any entrepreneurs smart enough to establish a stock site of their own that not only gives you good deals on bulk download, but that also has staff that understand the specific application of the multitudnous variables common in EPS files.

Imagine that, a stock site that not only sells images but backs it up with know how. What a concept!
 
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