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MHD


Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 661
Location: Canberra, Australia

Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:38 pm     Reply with quote

I'm involved in a working group looking at options for the College where I work's web page..

It is in dire need of some graphic design...

one suggestion is just hiring some one to do it proffesionaly.

So I want to find a very aproximate (ie just a clue) to how much people charge to design web pages so I can go in with accurate information....
The web page is burgmann.anu.edu.au

It is run using postnuke so a theme that could run through the whole site would be required... Any estimate of cost (which is better than the no idea I have) would be welcome
CristiM


Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 284

Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:48 pm     Reply with quote

I do but to give you an estimate price you have to give me more details about the requirements. Is it just the design of a template? Is it abou an entire site, and if so what kind of site, static html application...? stuff like that. I designed sites from 125$ to 1500$.

here is my page on rentacoder where I do alot of work, scroll down the page to see the jobs and the pricess. Many are private but a few you can see what are all about and the price.

http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/SoftwareCoders/showBioInfo.asp?lngAuthorId=229055&blnShowAllRatings=TRUE
StuartE


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 1606
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:56 pm     Reply with quote

A friend of mine, having taken my lead, charges $1 a minute... If people say that's too cheap, I'll put you in contact with him to generate a site for you - he's a perfectionist... :-)

Cheers,
Stuart
MHD


Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: Canberra, Australia

Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:59 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks guys!
this puts me on the right track already..

Yep... it is more of a template job... for those who are familiar postnuke uses the Xanthia templating engine...
CristiM


Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:05 pm     Reply with quote

@ Stuart $1 a minute that's 60$ an hour, a good template takes about 2-3 days of work I say that's not so cheap. And how do I know how many minutes he is scratching his but in an hour? :))

MHD I don't really have time right now because my hard drive crashed and I'm in a critical situation of redoing alot of work I did in the past month, but I have a few verry talented friends that would do it. If you want I can ask. They are familiar with postnuke and all those.
andresr


Joined: 14 Dec 2004
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Location: London www.andresr.com

Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:07 pm     Reply with quote

template 600$ :) www.andresrodriguez.co.uk
but as someone mentioned it depends if its only the plain html you want and thats it ..... more details needed :)

Actually my full time job is to design and mantain the website and the intranet of a college in the UK. :) www.ctksfc.ac.uk for those interested ;)
StuartE


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 1606
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:09 pm     Reply with quote

CristiM wrote:
@ Stuart $1 a minute that's 60$ an hour, a good template takes about 2-3 days of work I say that's not so cheap. And how do I know how many minutes he is scratching his but in an hour? :))


A 'template'?? Aren't they the rip off scams that everyone is buying?? He'd create a website - designed around the needs and wants of the client - and it'd be a one off, unlike any of the generated templates that everyone thinks are sooooo cool... and he would look at what you need, and give you a quote, based on those needs - it would be accurate, precise, and kept to - maybe that's wrong, but that's how he works...

How much he scratches his butt per hour is immaterial, as long as you get your site to your specification in the time that he quoted you for... or, for that matter, if he got a whole other person to do it (either the site generation or the butt scratching) - he quotes, you get, you pay... seems pretty simple, really...

Cheers,
Stuart
CristiM


Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:20 pm     Reply with quote

By template I mean just the design part slice and put in html, but with no content. I also completely design them acording to clients needs and also change them a few times according to reviews, and I don't generate them ready with some generators if that's what you mean. I can also do the content too in html, or php/mysql application. Anyways I have alot of other designer friends and your friend charging /minute fee seems strange. I mean a real designer who is not a machine and whants to do something cool and unique for his client often stares for hours an empty screen brainstorming for ideeas, also there are a few unsuccesful attempts, that don't look as good on the screen as it looked in your brain, so I prefer discussing an overall price based on complexity and a deadline. But your friend knows better what he's doing it's just weird to me.
MHD


Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: Canberra, Australia

Post Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:10 am     Reply with quote

yes... no content at all... we do that...

So as far as I can tell its 300-600 ish for something like andresr's page (which is very very nice)
andresr


Joined: 14 Dec 2004
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Location: London www.andresr.com

Post Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:14 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
By template I mean just the design part slice and put in html, but with no content


I also meant the above ...... stuart you missunderstood our point :p

THANKS MHD for the comments :).
For a layout like my website I would charge $450, I just saw your website and said 600 as it would have many links etc ... so there is more thinking to do structurewise.

ATB

Andres
MHD


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:38 am     Reply with quote

Cool... Meeting is tommorow so I will chat to them about this... I might take on the job myself or at the minimum take a role in it...

I dont know exactly what they want, they might want an in house quick job or a totaly pro registered company job...

Thanks everyone for the info... (this is a great community)
3pod


Joined: 09 Feb 2005
Posts: 210
Location: Athens, Greece www.3pod.gr

Post Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:29 am     Reply with quote

I can make you one like my for around 500$

check it out if you want some 3d graphics in that webpage.

Cheers.

http://www.3pod.gr
screenfx


Joined: 30 Mar 2005
Posts: 171
Location: Colorado

Post Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:09 am     Reply with quote

You might want to take a look at some of those freelance bidding sites like
guru.com or elance.com they have categories for web design. You can browse through there without joining and check out the bids.
sapsiwai


Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 298
Location: Mauritius

Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:17 am     Reply with quote

Did you check my site? http://www.designStuffs.com
Susan


Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 6264

Post Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:25 pm     Reply with quote

StuartE wrote:
CristiM wrote:
@ Stuart $1 a minute that's 60$ an hour, a good template takes about 2-3 days of work I say that's not so cheap. And how do I know how many minutes he is scratching his but in an hour? :))


A 'template'?? Aren't they the rip off scams that everyone is buying?? He'd create a website - designed around the needs and wants of the client - and it'd be a one off, unlike any of the generated templates that everyone thinks are sooooo cool... and he would look at what you need, and give you a quote, based on those needs - it would be accurate, precise, and kept to - maybe that's wrong, but that's how he works...

How much he scratches his butt per hour is immaterial, as long as you get your site to your specification in the time that he quoted you for... or, for that matter, if he got a whole other person to do it (either the site generation or the butt scratching) - he quotes, you get, you pay... seems pretty simple, really...

Cheers,
Stuart


Stuart has some valid points. Quality site builder's bill at $60 to $150+ per hour depending on your programming and design needs. There are many templates out there... however if you look, you will find them everywhere and frankly they remind me of templated penny saver adds. Bottom line you pay for what you get and if you require a site that offers any level of custom features to underline the unique aspects of your business. You will not find it in a template... on top of that you will look exactly like everyone else who want's a very cheap solution to thier marketing needs.

The quality of your marketing materials can have a big impact on the success of your business. Done well, web sites can help you promote your business and contribute to a strong image. Done poorly they can cause harm. So if looking exactly like everyone else... while having very narrow design and programming options available to consider the needs of your end user are not a problem. Then by all means a template will do nicely.

The question I would ask myself is... what message are you tring to convey to your clients... what set's you apart from your competition.
 
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