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planctonvideo


Joined: 02 Apr 2007
Posts: 33

Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:40 am     Reply with quote

digitalchaos wrote:


3) The Settings:

90% Quality (Files get huge if any higher number)
Uncompressed Sound (If applicable)
1920x1080 Resolution
Upper Field First
X/Y: 1 (Refers to Pixel Aspect Ratio)
Interlaced Scaling & Reinterlace Chroma: ON (These should be selected as you are encoding from an interlaced file, if your not encoding an interlaced file, use the Photo JPEG codec)
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Excuse me to everyone, but ... why you use
"Upper Field First" ?
planctonvideo


Joined: 02 Apr 2007
Posts: 33

Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:44 am     Reply with quote

digitalchaos wrote:
Grabbed this from a previous post, With some useful info.

From Varius:

M-JPG A vs. M-JPG B: Doesn't make a difference at all these days. It used to make a difference with certain hardware editing tools (big money studio type). Some whould only accept A, the other only B. In modern PC/MAC based systems you can use them as equivalent. People tend to use B because they think it's the newer version. ;-) (Which is true, but only by a few days.) The quality is the same.
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Is my opinion that m-jpg A works better with slow immages,
m-jpg B works better with fast ones.
dapoopta


Joined: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 3081
Location: 10,000 shutter clicks away from PRO

Post Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:08 pm     Reply with quote

I think it depends on how your source records. my hv30 does upper field first for interlaced.

I just use mjpeg B all the time, never messed with A B comparison.
michaeldb


Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1178
Location: Helena, MT

Post Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:15 pm     Reply with quote

Allow me to add my thanks to everyone sharing info here (I'm not submitting video yet, but hope to soon, and I'm posting this to bookmark this thread until they make it sticky).
ivonnewierink


Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 104

Post Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:33 am     Reply with quote

Please, give me advice.

I am now using CS4. I thought, no problem, and use the same settings:

My camera is the XH-A1 van Canon, 50i.

My settings for export are:
format: Quicktime
Videocodec: Motion JPEG B
quality 90%
formaat: 1440 x 1080
Framerate 25
Upper first
aspect: HD anamorphic 1080 (1.333)
Render at maximum depth is on

After this my HD-file is from about 230 MB resized in about 49 MB, and very bad in quality. I can't find the difference in settings between CS3. Please help.

Normally after this process I used MPEG-streamclip for resizing.
stefgo


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 320
Location: somewhere on the planet

Post Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:06 am     Reply with quote

Settings seem ok, apart from the frame size. You have to go to square pixels (1920x1080, aspect ratio = 1) if you switch to mjpeg to maintain full quality, if possible from the m2t file directly or after just one HDV export of the edited m2t-clip in order to avoid quality loss by repeated compressions.

Not sure if I got this right: Normally your file size should -unfortunately- increase 4 or 5 times by going from HDV to mjpeg/mov.

I don´t know CS4. I am using Streamclip for encoding HDV to mjpeg/mov. Works perfectly, but you gotta purchase the mpeg2 component for Quicktime or try with free QT alternative to be able to open the files in Streamclip.

Good luck,
Stefan
ivonnewierink


Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 104

Post Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:53 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks for your help. The file is now 20MB bigger, I suppose from the square pixels I used now. But, it's still too small, and the quality is too bad :(

Isn't there anybody with CS4? I really have a problem now, and so much to render :(
varius


Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 5593
Location: Bietigheim - Bissingen, Germany

Post Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:21 am     Reply with quote

Not on CS4 yet. And your settings do look good. Would love to help, but sorry, no idea. :(
dapoopta


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Posts: 3081
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Post Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:05 pm     Reply with quote

Should be up and running on cs4 in a few weeks. Not sure if it is worth it... does do AVCHD clips, and my sister inlaw has one of those cams. We shall see..
ivonnewierink


Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 104

Post Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:28 am     Reply with quote

Ok. Thanks to all. I have a really serious problem now, many to render, but impossible to convert it to quicktime full size.
When there is somebody with the same configuration... please help.
stefgo


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 320
Location: somewhere on the planet

Post Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:04 pm     Reply with quote

How about rendering an uncompressed avi 1920x1080 in CS4 and converting to mjepg/mov with Streamclip until you have figured out the solution? You don´t need to purchase anything in this case, just dld quicktime player and streamclip.
muhla1


Joined: 15 Nov 2008
Posts: 2

Post Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:34 pm     Reply with quote

Please tell me... Why my clips rejected with message "An undetermined technical error has prevented the clip from playing" if my clips was MOV/PhotoJPEG (1920X1080 px /square pixels/ 100% quality. And after submition preview image is not created
muhla1


Joined: 15 Nov 2008
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:23 pm     Reply with quote

anybody know, what is that?? Why, if I make Mov 1920x1080 photoJPEG file, 10sec, square pixels, render in Premiere pro CS3, Qick Time is 7.4. All files with thats parameter was accepted on pond5 and in ISTOCKPHOTO, files has normally preview in pending


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ivonnewierink


Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 104

Post Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:14 am     Reply with quote

stefgo wrote:
How about rendering an uncompressed avi 1920x1080 in CS4 and converting to mjepg/mov with Streamclip until you have figured out the solution? You don´t need to purchase anything in this case, just dld quicktime player and streamclip.



Do you mean with export > movie? It's HD, no AVI wath I captured. But maybe it works?
stefgo


Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 320
Location: somewhere on the planet

Post Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:28 am     Reply with quote

I don´t know how exactly the parameters are with CS4.

Uncompressed avi clips as intermediate files can have any frame size, which would be 1920x1080 for HDV as this is the correct size for display. These intermediate files will be pretty big of course so you might have to encode them to mjpeg/mov one by one and delete the avis afterwards.

This could be a temporary solution until you have figured out how to encode your original HD clips directly to mov with CS4. No help available in Internet on this, maybe in an Adobe forum?

Cheers,
Stefan
 
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