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jubalharshaw


Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 300

Post Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:09 pm     Reply with quote

diane555 wrote:
I would think that people would at least try to be accurate knowing that repeatedly annoying a customer will only result in them going elsewhere. Having said that I was surprised at how many submitters have been just adding from the top 100 keywords to their images, regardless of photo content.


IMHO,keyword spamming should be banned at SS and should be cause for being expelled from the site.
jubalharshaw


Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 300

Post Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:34 pm     Reply with quote

tugmistress wrote:
Reading through this, i find I struggle to come up with7 keywords!

There are several things that I do for keywords. Please forgive if some of these are obvious. The following tools should all be freeware, except for Microsoft Word.

Use a thesaurus. If you have Microsoft Word, type your subject word in a scratch document, highlight it, and go tools->language->thesaurus. You can also download any of a number of thesaurus tools that can live on the task bar. My favorite one is Mobysaurus.

Look up your subject word in Wikipedia. (Wikipedia "subject word")
This increasingly wonderful resource has so much information that you can usually find a number of keywords in the relevant article and at the same time do the basic research needed to guarantee the accuracy of your captions, etc.

If you often upload similar items (such as computer graphics, or dog photos or hiking photos, etc) you can develop a word processing file containing these groups of keywords and then copy and paste them as needed.

When using the above tools I often need to copy more than one seperate item or keyword to the clipboard. To do this, I use a clipboard utility that loads on bootup, lives on the taskbar and will enable me to copy a number of different items into the clipboard. My favorite is "3D Clipboard" by Smart Software.
Jubal Harshaw
shaithis


Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Posts: 1386
Location: Fair & Balanced

Post Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:17 am     Reply with quote

Great info. Thanks!
clivetooth


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 92
Location: England

Post Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:30 am     Reply with quote

jubalharshaw wrote:
clivetooth wrote:
As a clueless newbie, I wonder what would be good keywords for my computer-generated abstracts?


This is my file for fractals. Some of these may apply to your graphics.

logo, text, message, fractal; graphic; computer, art, artistic, large, design; color; colorful; math; mathematical; vivid; abstract; pattern; infinite, infinity, forever, detail, depth, geometric, geometry, symmetry, symmetrical


Thank you.

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Clive
setho
Admin


Joined: 25 Oct 2005
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Post Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:31 pm     Reply with quote

Actually, we ask that you not use a thesaurus for keywording. There is no need to put words that users would not think of. Keep the words simple and relevant to the image. That being said, you will get a warning if we see that you used the same keywords for multiple images even when the subjects are a little different. If you are using all 50 keywords, chances are you are using unnecessary keywords. Thanks.

Also, keyword spamming is grounds for dismissal from our site.
roadrunner


Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Location: Ocala, FL

Post Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:30 pm     Reply with quote

I am totally confused!

I'm just getting ready to submit my first 10. If I submit a shot of Independence Hall, I can only think of one key word. "Historic", and the title should say it all.

Guess I just don't have the knack for key wording my shots.
kenny123


Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 3641
Location: Masterton, New Zealand

Post Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:16 pm     Reply with quote

roadrunner wrote:
I am totally confused!

I'm just getting ready to submit my first 10. If I submit a shot of Independence Hall, I can only think of one key word. "Historic", and the title should say it all.

Guess I just don't have the knack for key wording my shots.


Ok, how about: Building,edifice,landmark,public,civic,federal,government.etc., ?
roadrunner


Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Location: Ocala, FL

Post Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:50 am     Reply with quote

Kenny123 - Thanks for your feedback! Now I see what you guys and gals are doing. By taking a historic building, or any building Isee how interesting this can be. Now I think I will be able to work out at least seven or eight key words for each of my other shots.

Only thing that scares me now is that many of these words seem generic, will the reviewers knock me out for same words being used for other buildings?

i.e. Edifice, building, landmark and public.

First time up to bat, so I wouldn't want to get struck out on a technicality.

Thanks so much for your help! I think that software I saw on another thread would be a good idea for a newbe like me. It will also help me to upload in FTP.

There's so much to get used to, but it keeps me on my toes!
roadrunner
jubalharshaw


Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 300

Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:41 am     Reply with quote

kenny123 wrote:
roadrunner wrote:
I am totally confused!

I'm just getting ready to submit my first 10. If I submit a shot of Independence Hall, I can only think of one key word. "Historic", and the title should say it all.

Guess I just don't have the knack for key wording my shots.


Ok, how about: Building,edifice,landmark,public,civic,federal,government.etc., ?


Don't forget derivations of keywords that you already have such as "history" and "historical". Also good: America, American, forefathers, revolution, Philadelphia, Founding Fathers, patriot, free, freedom, Liberty Bell, Declaration,Independence, Constitution, and on and on. What I do when I'm stuck is: open another browser window and search for "Independence Hall." Then read the reference material that you find this way and jot down or copy to the clipboard words or phrases appropriate for keywords. Words such as "free" or "freedom" are too common to be used by themselves but will be used by the savvy buyer in conjunction with, for example, "American" to get to your image. There is one unfortunate stumbling block in the SS keywording machine in that it discourages keyword phrases such as "Declaration of Independence." Also "Founding Fathers" will be turned into "Founding, Fathers" but if you are knowledgeable about these limitations, you can work around them.
Hope this helps
Jubal Harshaw
roadrunner


Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Location: Ocala, FL

Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:20 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks Jubal! That's a good suggestion - open another browser and do a google search. This will take som getting used to, but with nice folks willing to share their knowledge it will be a lot easier.

roadrunner
roadrunner


Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 56
Location: Ocala, FL

Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:01 pm     Reply with quote

I tried all your suggestions and the system kept rejecting my keywords. I tried several times, and each time I could not upload for review.

I may as well call it quits, because every key word was accurate and related to each image. Because there were similar shots, very different, my key words might seem to be identical, but that's not the case.

There is no way I was "WORD SPAMMING".

I will try to delete my images since I can't even get past the WORD GAME!

Thanks for the opportunity; wish you all well!

roadrunner
danijelm


Joined: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 8

Post Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:34 am     Reply with quote

Hello,

I am agree with some coments regard on keywords but about place and the name of place it is important if it is shoot about some monument or panorame or special nature because it is a important information for buyer or anyone. I also agree that is not important to put models name or name of place if that place doesn't give to the picture any specific character. But I have to add that sometimes is very tricky to decide is it characteristic of specific place or town important or not sometimes it is personal opinion.

By Danijel
hamdan


Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 78

Post Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:43 am     Reply with quote

so ,,, i need some keywords for this photo

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-1608697.html


thanks
hamdan
hospitalera


Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Location: Prague (Czech Republic) http://hospitalera.com

Post Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:19 am     Reply with quote

First you have to tell us WHAT it is/shall represent! LOL SY
jmci


Joined: 29 Oct 2006
Posts: 1380
Location: Northern Ireland

Post Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:20 am     Reply with quote

roadrunner wrote:
I tried all your suggestions and the system kept rejecting my keywords. I tried several times, and each time I could not upload for review.


Apologies in advance if I've misunderstood, but are you referring to the spellcheck page that sometimes comes up after you hit the submit button?

I often get this, because I like to put in both US and British spelling in the keywords (tire and tyre, for instance - the system objects to "tyre"). If this happens and you've checked for typos, you can scroll down and hit the submit button at the bottom of that page. The system accepts it then, and it goes to the reviewer.
 
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