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margaret
Joined: 01 Jul 2005
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Location: Lancashire, U.K.
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:36 pm
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Many thanks
been trying to do this for ages
Regards
Margaret
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:09 pm
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I do isolations all the time and this is what I do.
first shoot it as good as you can then open the image go to levels and click on the white eyedropper and then the background, BAM! thats it. anything left over just hit it with the dodge tool at 2% around hair and such. never had a complaint.
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jenniebook
Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:09 pm
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I have a question about isolating images, as I've never done any: do they sell well? Do those of you with lots of good isolated images in your galleries find that they sell better, worse, or comparable to similar non-isolated images?
jennie
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:19 pm
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| jenniebook wrote: | I have a question about isolating images, as I've never done any: do they sell well? Do those of you with lots of good isolated images in your galleries find that they sell better, worse, or comparable to similar non-isolated images?
jennie |
Yes they do, because designers can simply drop in text.
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eutoch
Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 436
Location: Big World
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:36 pm
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| jenniebook wrote: | I have a question about isolating images, as I've never done any: do they sell well? Do those of you with lots of good isolated images in your galleries find that they sell better, worse, or comparable to similar non-isolated images?
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My isolations, typically clipping Path created with Pen Tool in GIMP or CS2, oversell shots on-white of the same objects at approximate rate 3:1 and sometimes even higher depending on stock agency that I work with.
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hauntingimagez
Joined: 09 Mar 2005
Posts: 523
Location: las vegas nv
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:30 pm
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| davidcrehner wrote: | I think my way is faster...
Zoom in 100%. USe the polygon selection tool to rough in a selection around the object. Get it close, but don't waste time getting it perfect. Once you close around the object, contract the selection by a couple pixels. Smooth by several pixels. Invert the selection. Feather by a couple pixels. Hit delete. Voila. Honestly works really, really well, and as you get better at it, you can do it very fast.
All my isolated shots in my gallery were done with this technique. |
I printed out your directions and got the first part down after very little time. However, the other parts have thrown me. I can't locate tools, these are the parts, "contract the selection of a couple of pixels", "smooth by several pixels, invert the selection", "feather by a couple pixels"
Obviously photoshop is rather new to me and I can do several jobs on it, but haven't been able to get isolation down. I have photoshop cs2
thanks in advance for your help
terra king
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Erin
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Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 431
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:22 pm
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Hi Terra,
The contract tool is found under Select > Modify > Contract. This is to bring the selection in a little.
With everything Still selected, Choose Select > Feather .. then enter in 1-3 smooth factor. Press okay. Nothing will happen yet, until you hit delete, then you will see smoothing.
While selected, choose Select > Invert. This inverts your selection. Meaning that it will go from your white background being selected - to the object instead.
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hauntingimagez
Joined: 09 Mar 2005
Posts: 523
Location: las vegas nv
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:44 pm
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thanks so much, I will try it and see what I can do.
thanks again
terra
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kenny123
Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 6078
Location: Masterton,Wairarapa, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:19 am
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| hauntingimagez wrote: | | davidcrehner wrote: | I think my way is faster...
Zoom in 100%. USe the polygon selection tool to rough in a selection around the object. Get it close, but don't waste time getting it perfect. Once you close around the object, contract the selection by a couple pixels. Smooth by several pixels. Invert the selection. Feather by a couple pixels. Hit delete. Voila. Honestly works really, really well, and as you get better at it, you can do it very fast.
All my isolated shots in my gallery were done with this technique. |
I printed out your directions and got the first part down after very little time. However, the other parts have thrown me. I can't locate tools, these are the parts, "contract the selection of a couple of pixels", "smooth by several pixels, invert the selection", "feather by a couple pixels"
Obviously photoshop is rather new to me and I can do several jobs on it, but haven't been able to get isolation down. I have photoshop cs2
thanks in advance for your help
terra king |
HI there,
Rinder99 pinned it down in simple terms a couple of weeks ago- you photograph your subject against a white background, and if it isn't quite there,you go to image>adjustments> levels-at the bottom right corner of this box are 3 eyedropper icons-you click and drag the right hand one to the background of your image, and click it-Voila! instant white background! Anything needs tidying, use dodge tool at 2% - no complicated outlining, cutting and pasting-dead simple!
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dbvirago
Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 1628
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:37 pm
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Damn! Just tried this with the image I am working with in the 'simple lighting' thread. Amazing. I can't believe how much time I have wasted on this.
You guys are great. Thanks again.
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righteousseeds
Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 2077
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:55 pm
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care to share your picture?
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dbvirago
Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 1628
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:42 pm
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Not really :-) Shooting still needs work and I'm not happy with the set up of my 'studio', but I won't waste any more time trying to isolate in post. Here's the rest of what I shot today. The pills from the other thread had blown highlights after this maneuver, but I wasn't going to try and use those anyway. (got to find pills without brandnames all over them.)
Anyway...
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rinder99
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 39131
Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:57 pm
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atta boy!! SEE?
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propjockey
Joined: 07 Jul 2006
Posts: 346
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:26 am
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| rinder99 wrote: | I do isolations all the time and this is what I do.
first shoot it as good as you can then open the image go to levels and click on the white eyedropper and then the background, BAM! thats it. anything left over just hit it with the dodge tool at 2% around hair and such. never had a complaint. |
Laurin:
I got started on this site after reading the article in Popular Photography that you were quoted in. Can't find the issue at the moment but recall you stating something to the effect that you didn't need Photoshop and that Elements is good enough. At the moment, Elements 2.0 is all I have, and I'll admit upfront, I'm still learning that. Any tips for isolating when using Elements instead?
Dave
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dbvirago
Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 1628
Location: Atlanta, Ga.
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:44 pm
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| propjockey wrote: | | rinder99 wrote: | I do isolations all the time and this is what I do.
first shoot it as good as you can then open the image go to levels and click on the white eyedropper and then the background, BAM! thats it. anything left over just hit it with the dodge tool at 2% around hair and such. never had a complaint. |
Laurin:
I got started on this site after reading the article in Popular Photography that you were quoted in. Can't find the issue at the moment but recall you stating something to the effect that you didn't need Photoshop and that Elements is good enough. At the moment, Elements 2.0 is all I have, and I'll admit upfront, I'm still learning that. Any tips for isolating when using Elements instead?
Dave |
The tip he gave works in Elements also (at least v3 and 4). That's what I used on the three shots above. It's not often I find a Photoshop tip that doesn't work in Elements. Sometimes it's under a different menu or named a bit differently.
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