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Reviewers are putting NON editorials as editorials: why????
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riffmax


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Post Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:45 pm     Reply with quote

I agree on that one, but the canyon shots have an argument for editorial.
dzain


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Post Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:19 pm     Reply with quote

When they keep it editorial, they must have changed the rules because I find lots of pictures with people from backsite or silhouettes that are not editorial:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-12057355-young-people-walking-in-the-modern-downtown.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-12057349-business-people-walking-along-office-building.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-3093928-people-silhouettes-at-airport-building.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-1097778-business-traveler-makes-a-call-while-waiting-for-his-flight.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8503279-a-young-man-jumping-high-at-lake-tahoe-resort.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8684749-camel-caravan-going-through-the-sand-dunes-in-the-sahara-desert-morocco.html

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-1841241-emerald-lake-yoho-national-park-canada.html

oh, and this one is a lot more recognisable then that silhouette at the beach:

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-6446212--years-woman-portrait-during-yoga-at-exotic-surrounding-bali-indonesia.html

and many many many more of this kind of photo's
devy


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Post Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:24 pm     Reply with quote

Yes....SS may have become some more tighter on this subject...which I think is good...

greetings
devy
dzain


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Post Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:27 pm     Reply with quote

Well, as sometime before, we strongly disagree
devy


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Post Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:28 pm     Reply with quote

dzain wrote:
Well, as sometime before, we strongly disagree


oh yes...is that so?

anyway...have a nice weekend!
greetings
devy
traveler1116


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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:09 am     Reply with quote

Editorial
kileman


Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:52 am     Reply with quote

I am really surprised about this one... all you can see is part of an arm. Do I need to crop this out to make this not need a model release? or has a mistake been made? I have never seen SS be this strict before....


http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=12323305
dzain


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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:42 am     Reply with quote

OMG! They have gone mad!!!
lilcrazyfuzzy


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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:12 am     Reply with quote

weird
weberfoto


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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:13 am     Reply with quote

As mentioned in earlier messages (in this thread and many others), this seems to be a trend at all the micro sites. The thing is I can't see a reason why. I haven't seen or heard anything about anybody being taken to court and having lost, at least not in a high profile case. I might be wrong, but I thought the court decisions in the past were all based on that a person has to be recognizable by somebody else. Unless that is the case, anybody can jump up and claim 'hey, that's me in that picture'. How can he/she prove it if nobody else can recognize the person in the image?

I would like to see at least one of the sites show some backbone and stand up for their contributors. SS has now over a 100,000 photographers. If it would come to a lawsuit, I'm sure there is quite a number of us here that out of self interest would be willing to contribute to some kind of defense fund.
pharm


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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:25 pm     Reply with quote

The fire picture is editorial? Now I'm wondering. Remember a very short while ago, the reviewer(s) that kept slapping everything with a "limited commercial value"? Do you think he/she/they have sneaked back in and is/are now labeling things "editorial" right and left? I hope not.
riffmax


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Post Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:35 pm     Reply with quote

Oh, please say it isn't so!
Photoshow


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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:43 am     Reply with quote

hooyacrusty wrote:
devy wrote:
Not so long ago I submitted this one:

No face recognisable at all...and still...(needs a modelrelease which is really understandable imho)



greetings
devy


This guy couldn't prove the photo was of him no matter how hard he tried.


Actually I think you could recover enough detail in Photoshop from the full size image on this one for the guy to not only recognize himself but prove it was him too.

A little levels and shadow and highlight adjustment and he has a face. Go to the source file with no watermark across the face and bingo, instant recognition.

You never know how the designer will manipulate an image for end use.
kileman


Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:47 am     Reply with quote

try get a face out of my one....
Sword Serenity


Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: Cairns, Australia

Post Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:16 am     Reply with quote

Photoshow wrote:


Actually I think you could recover enough detail in Photoshop from the full size image on this one for the guy to not only recognize himself but prove it was him too.

A little levels and shadow and highlight adjustment and he has a face. Go to the source file with no watermark across the face and bingo, instant recognition.

You never know how the designer will manipulate an image for end use.


That's a great point seeing how well image editing software can recover details now. Call me silly, but I can't figure out whether the guy in that photo's facing toward or away from the camera (I automatically assumed 'away' earlier until your post though).
 
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