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gregor

Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:04 pm
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Thanks, very interesting!
Welcome on the forum btw :) |
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alfgar

Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Posts: 407
Location: Panama City,Panama
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:12 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | It's not my first time at the party. |
Yeah... with the quality of your work, I'm sure it must happen to you quite a bit. But if it turns out you can get a direct agreement with that site, so much the better, you're right... Turns a negative into a positive as you might even sell many more shots through him that he had! Best of luck with that :-) |
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jenden2005
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:44 pm
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My apolgies if this has already been pointed out as a typo, I did not read entire thread ... but how would you only end up with $1.60 from an EL sale? I'm hoping I'm not missing something in the contract. |
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ctesti

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 1344
Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:53 pm
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| jenden2005 wrote: | | My apolgies if this has already been pointed out as a typo, I did not read entire thread ... but how would you only end up with $1.60 from an EL sale? I'm hoping I'm not missing something in the contract. |
An EL sale over there goes for $100, so the photographer share is probably around $25 for non-exclusive.
So I think it's a typo. |
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mandy

Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:56 pm
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I actually said over 2000$ not over 200$ :)
They seem to be getting a lot more images indexed on tineye there weren't nearly that many hits when I looked a few weeks ago.
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objowl

Joined: 07 Jul 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Radcliffe, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:02 pm
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[quote="mandy"]I actually said over 2000$ not 200$ :)
My apolgies, should use my glasses when I'm not working.
Objowl |
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mandy

Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:11 pm
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No need to apologize. My point is that it has made over 2000$ and hopefully will continue making money for at least a couple more years so I'm not about to complain about any use as long as it is used within the rights of the license bought. This is a numbers game not about individual sales. |
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stefaniemohr
Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 765
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:38 pm
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| hospitalera wrote: | http://www.tineye.com
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Never heard of tineye before, nor of any other means to search the web for a certain picture - so thought I definitely should give it a go. And hey - it's absolutely marvelous!
Thanks for sharing the link! |
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windyone
Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Posts: 16
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:38 pm
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I want to thank you Laurin for saying it! I am new to the MS. I have been involved with art all of my days but, I have just started working with Illustrator, so I am very much a novice at it. The MS has offered me the opportunity to practice for a reason. I would not have produced the quantity without reason!
I admit I feel that I am having a few pennies thrown my way for a vector that took me a day to make. Yes it will eventually add up but I still feel a sting that someone was able to purchase it for pennies!
The work of an artist is something that took not only years of school but also a lifetime of living your art. It takes a Dr 8 years of school-it takes an artist a lifetime. The Internet is making us free for the taking. I have not yet been paid for ant EL, but I feel sure that my images are over-used with or without any license being purchased. I really do want to make a living at this; giving it away does not pay the rent! I hope for all of us that we can find a better way! |
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rinder99

Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 32270
Location: Stock,food,portrait books www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:33 pm
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I understand.and about how much I made from that sale. I really don't know and really didn't care, being non exclusive over there I see my stuff going for 20 cents to a few dollars. I don't pay that much attention Because it's what it is.I only pay attention here and don't really Like that site anyway. So if it was $1.60 or 20 dollars, It's still to low either way But, Were all in or all out.It was the principle and being able to control The quality of a print on an Image that I OWN!! Nothing More.. And BTW, Since,I've been told he was in violation of the agreement.About the art thing. I remember once 35 years or so ago going to a Show by one of the most famous Abstract painters in the world and I got to spend some time with him. As we were looking a one of his Huge pieces I asked him....How long did it take you to do this? he said "My entire Life" I stole that line and use it all the time.
And, I might add from experience, They don't need a EL or a large size to sell prints. Things can be rezzed up to 16x20 prints very easily with good rip programs.Happens all the time.Hell we did Billboards from 35MM long before Digital. |
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michaeldb

Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1166
Location: Helena, MT
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:29 pm
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| rinder99 wrote: | | ...I don't pay that much attention Because it's what it is.I only pay attention here and don't really Like that site anyway... |
I hear you on that. I had referred 10 people to 'that site' before I even knew I had any referrals there. If it doesn't happen on SS, there is little chance that I know it happened.
You had a post a while back somewhere that you were thinking about going exclusive. I guess that would be one of that advantages of exclusivity, you could keep closer tab on what happens to your images. But the original question of this thread would remain: Even if you kept closer tabs, what finally could you do about the things that happen?
(BTW love your new Dark Side avatar image.) |
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rinder99

Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 32270
Location: Stock,food,portrait books www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:34 pm
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Thanks I did come over to the dark side. I have about 60 In and another 100 submitting. Fun stuff. yes The thread I stated was about "What if" SS offered a exclusive deal for more Money. |
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agitlits
Joined: 09 Jul 2006
Posts: 76
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:54 pm
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I've been seriously considering going RM to macro sites for the reasons discussed above and have already started doing so. Not sure whether I will give up the micro game completely at this stage. The way things are going though it looks like the gap between the two is narrowing.
Alex |
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rinder99

Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Stock,food,portrait books www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:36 pm
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I agree Alex.And Believe it or not . These are some of the changes I saw coming about a year ago. There will be more, And I think More exciting For us all.IMHO. |
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natse

Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 138
Location: www.freewebs.com/natse
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:49 am
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I agree with Laurin's original post that it seems kinda wrong that someone can purchase a fabulous image for next to nothing and start making huge profits on it.And profit from someone else's talent and hard work, while the original artist gets a couple of bucks at best. I think there ought to be a fairer deal for artists, althought that's probably just my wishful thinking.. |
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