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izanette
Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:24 am
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Hi,
Have just had my first batch of pictures not approved :(
Anyway, in a way to move forward, I would like to hear from you a bit of more details about why these 3 pictures weren't approved and what can I do to improve them:
Not approved because of composition:
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crop 100%
Not approved because poor lighting:
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crop 100%
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crop 100%
Also, I had some pictures that had the comment "7 of 10 must be approved". Reading the forums, I learnt that those pictures would have been accepted if at most three weren't rejected.
Is there any problem to re-submit these pictures that would have been accepted next time?
Regards,
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kenny123
Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 2603
Location: Masterton, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:34 am
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#1. Cropped too tight
#2. Unnatural reflections
#3. Not in focus-too dark
not a good idea to leave watermarks or copyright notices on you images
As for your other question,they ask that you present ten totally new images next time.
regards, ken |
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izanette
Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:02 am
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Thanks for your comments Ken!
I just didn't understand the comment about unnatural reflections on the #2 picture. I used a large light box to soften the light and I think it gave these reflections. Is this too bad?
IZ |
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kenny123
Joined: 13 Aug 2005
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Location: Masterton, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:01 pm
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| izanette wrote: | Thanks for your comments Ken!
I just didn't understand the comment about unnatural reflections on the #2 picture. I used a large light box to soften the light and I think it gave these reflections. Is this too bad?
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Unless you really understand lighting,and know what you are doing,a light tent ( a lightbox is used for viewing slides)will give you problems-better to keep it simple-just use a window on the side of the house opposite direct sun,and use diffusers,reflectors or mirrors to get the effect you want. Regards, Ken |
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izanette
Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:21 pm
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| kenny123 wrote: | ...a light tent ( a lightbox is used for viewing slides)
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Sorry, I meant a softbox like this one.
Anyway, I still can't see anything wrong with the light of this photo. I think that these reflections will show with almost any kind of light that I use because of the oil in the food. I can use a small source of light to make the specular light very small. But this will have the side effect of creating harsh shadows. I'm sure a window will create the same kind of reflection.
Regards,
IZ |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 6683
Location: Fox Lake, Illinois, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:38 pm
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I don't think the lighting in the food shot is that far off. I think a touch of brightening to make the colors pop some will do it.
The problem sometimes comes up where one soft light source can give a food shot a one dimensional look to it and that can result in somewhat of a flat light. For this shot I would try some back/side lighting with a fill or reflector opposite.
There is nothing wrong with reflections being made by the use of oil or other liquid as long as they don't get blown out or take over the entire image. I shoot for those reflections quite a bit and they can enhance a food shot if done properly.
All in all I don't think you were that far off with the shot. |
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kenny123
Joined: 13 Aug 2005
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Location: Masterton, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:51 pm
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| izanette wrote: | | kenny123 wrote: | ...a light tent ( a lightbox is used for viewing slides)
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Sorry, I meant a softbox like this one.
Anyway, I still can't see anything wrong with the light of this photo. I think that these reflections will show with almost any kind of light that I use because of the oil in the food. I can use a small source of light to make the specular light very small. But this will have the side effect of creating harsh shadows. I'm sure a window will create the same kind of reflection.
Regards,
IZ |
A lot of pro's use a second diffuser (scrim) on a frame between softbox and subject to cut reflections-with the window method you could cover window with a plain shower curtain. Regards, Ken |
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izanette
Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:09 pm
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Thanks Ken and Dave for critique and the tips. Will try them next time I shot food.
Dave, looked at your gallery and your food photos are awesome!
Regards,
IZ |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 6683
Location: Fox Lake, Illinois, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:34 pm
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| izanette wrote: | Thanks Ken and Dave for critique and the tips. Will try them next time I shot food.
Dave, looked at your gallery and your food photos are awesome!
Regards,
IZ |
Why thank you IZ. Always nice to hear comments like that. |
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