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quist
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:32 am
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I sometimes would like to have a go in the footage section also, if time permits. I can see that most cameras discussed here are about ten times the cost of my (very cheap in this comparison) CANON MV900.
http://www.camcorder-compare.com/canon-mv900.html
It is like starting all over once again, and I know it will be time consuming - I am not yet prepared to buy a new expensive camera - but neither do I want to waste my time completely, if my present camera cannot live up to the standards. (I know about the external mic which is absolutely necessary on this model). But any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks.
Niels Quist |
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varius
Joined: 19 Mar 2006
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Location: Bietigheim - Bissingen, Germany
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:39 am
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It's a bit like shooting stock with a cheap but ok 4MP point&shoot camera. It can be done if you know what you're doing - but you have absolutely no room for mistakes. Good light is essential and you may want to read the manual thoroughly for manual control of lighting and focus. You'd still be limited in what kind of subjects/scenes you can shoot, but it's ok for a bit of practice and a modest start in footage. But I'd predict you'd want to upgrade very soon. ;-) |
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dapoopta
Joined: 28 Nov 2007
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Location: 10,000 shutter clicks away from PRO
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:34 am
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Make sure you shoot everything at 800x. hahaha. TURBO POST PROCESSING ZOOM. Never understood why people would even fool with digital zoom. blah.
Anyway... try that camera out a little, see what you think about doing stock videos, then upgrade if you like it. |
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quist
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
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Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:16 am
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Thanks a lot for your replies and advice. It was what I had hoped for - that it is possible but a bit more difficult and not satisfying in the long run.. In that case I will have to dig up the moleskin (the wallet, because it doesn't see light that often. I don't know whether it is an international saying, though)....
No, neither have I ever understood the value of digital zoom.
Niels Quist
Edited: Sorry, I just had to correct a major grammatical error...
Last edited by quist on Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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koi88
Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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Location: http://www.shutterstock.com/g/koi88
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:48 am
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No, neither have I never understood the value of digital zoom.
Niels Quist |
Ah, you get it wrong, digital zoom is incredibly valuable – for the marketing of bad cameras. ;-)
But what I really wanted to ask:
I read a lot of complaints about the way video works here on shutterstock. Right now, I'm exclusive video uploader on another site, but I was thinking of cancelling my exclusivity there and start uploading to shutterstock (when I'm allowed to, after 90 days).
But – as video uploading is quite time-consuming – I was wondering if you think it's worth the trouble ... I have a decent camera (Canon iVis HV20) and some experience, I guess (while not being a pro).
Do you make a profit here?
How is it compared to other sites? (in case you have experience)
How are review times? (on the site I'm exclusive, it's about 5 weeks vor video clips!)
What do you think? |
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varius
Joined: 19 Mar 2006
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Location: Bietigheim - Bissingen, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:10 am
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Do you make a profit here?
How is it compared to other sites? (in case you have experience)
How are review times? (on the site I'm exclusive, it's about 5 weeks vor video clips!)
What do you think? |
1) YES - and even more at one other place I'd PM you about if you're interested. Much more than on the site you're at currently.
2) Much easier, more return for the time invested... We have editorial footage here which (for me) is a great plus.
3) Anywhere between 12 hours and 12 days. Depends on when Francois uploads. ;-)
Exclusivity works for some, for others (like me) it doesn't. I'd rather take the extra work and not have my eggs all in one basket. |
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koi88
Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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Location: http://www.shutterstock.com/g/koi88
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:37 am
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Thanks a lot for your reply! I shall soon cancel my exclusivity on that other site.
[quote="varius"] | koi88 wrote: |
1) YES - and even more at one other place I'd PM you about if you're interested. |
And about the other place you're talking about ... I would be very interested. Can you PM me, please? |
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hfng
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:14 am
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Wow this post is on the SS newsletter. And the funny thing is that this post is talking about another site hahahahahaha. Can you PM me too ;) |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:21 pm
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I don't know about that Canon one, but I still shoot with my good old NV MX-350 ... It is 3CCD (whic is quite missing on that Canon) PAL miniDV and it works great... Put it on tripod and voila! I recently carried it on top-model shooting (just in case) - and made interesting clips and they are pasted in final production for TV broadcast in BETA system ;-)
My camera has 20x optical zoom and I don't need digital at all whic is still present there too ;-) |
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Rekindle
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Location: Utah: http://www.rekindlephoto.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:27 pm
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HV-20 is more than adequate, in fact it is an excellent stock video camera. |
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fa63yyc
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
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Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:19 am
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| varius wrote: | | koi88 wrote: |
Do you make a profit here?
How is it compared to other sites? (in case you have experience)
How are review times? (on the site I'm exclusive, it's about 5 weeks vor video clips!)
What do you think? |
1) YES - and even more at one other place I'd PM you about if you're interested. Much more than on the site you're at currently.
2) Much easier, more return for the time invested... We have editorial footage here which (for me) is a great plus.
3) Anywhere between 12 hours and 12 days. Depends on when Francois uploads. ;-)
Exclusivity works for some, for others (like me) it doesn't. I'd rather take the extra work and not have my eggs all in one basket. |
Yes it's worth it. However, it takes work, more work and investment than still photos.
BTW, I'm still a few weeks away from uploading my first batch of HD clips. Looks like I'm shopping for a new HD suite as IVS edits (Italy) are again delaying the launch... sigh.
choices:
Grass Valley EDIUS Broadcast
Final Cut Pro
hmmmmm.... |
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tgtg
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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Location: Russia
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:14 pm
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I don't think, video takes more investmet and work, than photo |
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varius
Joined: 19 Mar 2006
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Location: Bietigheim - Bissingen, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:33 pm
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| tgtg wrote: | | I don't think, video takes more investmet and work, than photo |
Depends on what you do - in both cases. ;-) |
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milinz
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:57 pm
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| varius wrote: | | tgtg wrote: | | I don't think, video takes more investmet and work, than photo |
Depends on what you do - in both cases. ;-) |
I agree with You Varius! |
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Rekindle
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Location: Utah: http://www.rekindlephoto.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:43 pm
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I probably take much more time on each photo than I do with video as far as post processing. Many buyers want unaltered video especially if it's editorial or news orientated. Video is just very more time consuming on capturing, loading to computer, basic processing and then the long ftp time. Keywording is about the same. Storage cost on HD is much more expensive. Video costs more to produce and get to the buyer. |
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