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kaycee


Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl

Post Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:53 pm     Reply with quote

Just before the vacation I bought a point and shoot camera for use underwater.
I tried to get some nice pictures before we go on vacation and I tought oh boy oh boy what have I done because the noise and sharpness was very bad (extreme condition for a point and shoot cam)
During the vacation I played a lot with this camera and underwater it makes some nice pictures but no stock quality.
Some pictures I made outside the water are great and got even the WOW factor and on some point even better than my dslr (I have test it)
Yesterday I submit a couple of pictures for review and guess what SS accepted the pictures made by the point and shoot camera the batch was a combination of point and shoot and dslr pictures also accepted the dslr pictures.
Are there people out here who's going back to point and shoot or stay with the dslr?????.
I never thought the quality was this good for point and shoot cameras these days, after you know the weakness of the camera in my case low light.

Here one of them made with the point and shoot camera.
rinder99


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:45 pm     Reply with quote

I've said a lot of times . It really doesn't matter once you understand the limitations of the equipment used. And when you do, A whole new world opens. Good for you.Just stay away from sports and nature.....LOL
davidcrehner


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:52 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
I've said a lot of times . It really doesn't matter once you understand the limitations of the equipment used. And when you do, A whole new world opens. Good for you.Just stay away from sports and nature.....LOL


And low light, handheld, children running, pets who won't stay still, moving vehicles, objects with low contrast, etc., etc., etc. :-)
cyd


Joined: 23 Sep 2005
Posts: 300

Post Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:11 pm     Reply with quote

rinder99 wrote:
I've said a lot of times . It really doesn't matter once you understand the limitations of the equipment used. And when you do, A whole new world opens. Good for you.Just stay away from sports and nature.....LOL


Amen. I can only hold a p&s these days and have sold all my other equipment. I went with the Canon G9. What a surprise! With IS in the camera I can shoot at lower ISO, and it's pretty darned good at capturing action with no lag if I set it to continuous shooting. Noise is a problem at higher ISOs, but not if I print the photos.

I no longer worry about getting mugged for the thousands of bucks of equipment I wander the streets with, and it's always nice and snug in my purse (even the small ones!) to capture shots I would have missed otherwise. The worst shot I've taken with my p&s, just because it was handy, is 10 times better than the best shot I didn't take with my full gear, which I left at home because it was too much to carry around and I didn't want to risk damage.

ETA: Forgot to mention what an incredible job it does with macro, and how nobody kicks me out of places because I look like a pro :-)
galstyan


Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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Location: Yerevan,Armenia

Post Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:35 pm     Reply with quote

What camera you bought Karin ?
eppicphotos


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Location: BC, Canada www.eppicphotography.com

Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:03 am     Reply with quote

I have a Sony A-350 and the Live View works just like a P&S so does that count?
Actually I do rather enjoy my G9 as well for it's versatility (and yes I'll second the wonderful macro capabilities).
I miss the 4/3 aspect I used to shoot when I used Olympus DSLR's, so I like the P&S for the 4/3 aspect. Still though, the G9 will never totally take the place of my DSLR.
kenny123


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:38 am     Reply with quote

If you know your camera,and realize its limits,you can make some decent shots-these were made with a $99 (New Zealand) Sanyo VPC 650 6mp compact camera-hand-held,No IS/VR:


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kaycee


Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl

Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:15 am     Reply with quote

galstyan wrote:
What camera you bought Karin ?
I bought the Olympus 850SW, I bought this one specialy for underwater.Normaly I go for a Canon with point and shoot (ixus serie)
ryuji


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:06 am     Reply with quote

kenny123 wrote:
If you know your camera,and realize its limits,you can make some decent shots-these were made with a $99 (New Zealand) Sanyo VPC 650 6mp compact camera-hand-held,No IS/VR:


Amazing!
hilaryaq


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:44 am     Reply with quote

Some compacts are now shooting RAW, that's saying something.. they even have cute little itty lenses for some of them.. :)
bichon


Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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Location: Canada

Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:04 am     Reply with quote

eppicphotos wrote:
I have a Sony A-350 and the Live View works just like a P&S so does that count?
Actually I do rather enjoy my G9 as well for it's versatility (and yes I'll second the wonderful macro capabilities).
I miss the 4/3 aspect I used to shoot when I used Olympus DSLR's, so I like the P&S for the 4/3 aspect. Still though, the G9 will never totally take the place of my DSLR.


i'd love to throw out my d90 and get a G9...
i'm sorry, i started to get serious(er) about photography ! lol
jerryj2


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Location: Psalm 66:20 Blessed be God Who hath not turned away my prayer nor His mercy from me.

Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:39 pm     Reply with quote

bichon wrote:
eppicphotos wrote:
I have a Sony A-350 and the Live View works just like a P&S so does that count?
Actually I do rather enjoy my G9 as well for it's versatility (and yes I'll second the wonderful macro capabilities).
I miss the 4/3 aspect I used to shoot when I used Olympus DSLR's, so I like the P&S for the 4/3 aspect. Still though, the G9 will never totally take the place of my DSLR.


i'd love to throw out my d90 and get a G9...
i'm sorry, i started to get serious(er) about photography ! lol


Lots about the G9. Anyone using a G10, and if so how does it stack up?
thesupe87


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:47 pm     Reply with quote

I find the macro on my point and shoot to be incredible...that little Canon Powershot has paid for itself a hundred times over. Everything I've submitted prior to April 08 was shot on a point and shoot.

If you know how to post process and noise filter, they can definitely produce stock quality images. Sometimes you barely need to noise filter, if everything is exposed properly and you're shooting at ISO 100. The HP point and shoot I had was always noisy, though. No matter what I did with the thing. Grainy noise, too. Some brands have much more artifacting than others - it's just all about the sensor size.
hoplessbliss


Joined: 30 Nov 2008
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:38 am     Reply with quote

I myself have an Olypmus Stylus 790 SW and bought it for the same reason....because it goes underwater. It is a great little p&s.
I AM limited to what I can do, so since I am getting more and more into photography I am buying a new DSLR. Right now I just use my point and shoot and then my grandfathers 20 yr old Rebel. My old reliable.
But I will always be loyal to my p&s. I love that it fits in my pocket and I can take it with me anywhere. I don't leave the house without it. It is always in my purse, and because it has shock absrob, I feel it's alittle safer. Of course I do have a case that it goes in first, but this thing is TOUGH!!!
My nephew loves to run aroud the house and take pictures with it and take it outside. And he loves to take it to the pool and use it. Its great, because he can be really rough with it, drop it, throw it in the pool, whatever...and it still works great!
bichon


Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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Location: Canada

Post Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:10 pm     Reply with quote

thesupe87 wrote:
I find the macro on my point and shoot to be incredible...that little Canon Powershot has paid for itself a hundred times over. Everything I've submitted prior to April 08 was shot on a point and shoot.

If you know how to post process and noise filter, they can definitely produce stock quality images. Sometimes you barely need to noise filter, if everything is exposed properly and you're shooting at ISO 100. The HP point and shoot I had was always noisy, though. No matter what I did with the thing. Grainy noise, too. Some brands have much more artifacting than others - it's just all about the sensor size.

they are getting better at the in-camera processing, i guess.
i had a canon s45...
noise was a big issue.. as you say.. you must get the lighting right.. that's the only caveat...
i had big problems with dynamic range.. hazing .. artifacts.. fringing.....
that's why i left point and shoots 4 years ago...
 
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