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kaycee
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:01 pm
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Hi guys ,
I noticed something strange with the brightest color green and the brightest turquoise all RGB colors if I changed them from EPS to JPG also RGB color settings the colors are not bright but a little bit dull.
Is this normal or am I doing something wrong......
When I save the EPS the colors stay the same nice and bright....
Thanks for the help
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smilewithjul
Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:38 pm
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Yep.
I always make ctr+U and saturation +5(10)... for each jpg file ^_^"
ps. Dont know why it so... |
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kaycee
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:53 pm
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Thanks,I tried what you suggested but I need to put the saturation up to more as 50% to get close further up it looks ugly and I'm getting some strange lnes in it.
I see now when I choise those bright colors in illustrator the color guide give me this warning reach out of gamut...
I think this might be the problem........
So what you suggest with the saturation is this used by others too????? |
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endaerkened
Joined: 07 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:00 pm
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| kaycee wrote: | Thanks,I tried what you suggested but I need to put the saturation up to more as 50% to get close further up it looks ugly and I'm getting some strange lnes in it.
I see now when I choise those bright colors in illustrator the color guide give me this warning reach out of gamut...
I think this might be the problem........
So what you suggest with the saturation is this used by others too????? |
Hi,
I believe I might have, not a solution, but a workaround the problem. My understanding of Illustrator is quite limited (I work in Corel&Photoshop, using Illustrator only as intermediary), but you are right, a basic rule would be not to use out of gamut colors - they might look great on your screen, but are unprintable. And the workaround: just drag&drop from Illustrator into Photoshop the illustration, and export from there the jpeg. I usually do that (there's no direct way to load Corel vector into photoshop), and works like a charm for me. You don't even need to rasterize the vector shape, and can scale it without any bitmap distortions (blurring/introducing artifacts). One thing you should verify tough: use the same color space in Illustrator and Photoshop, or else your colors will appear slightly changed. And one more thing: I strongly advise you not to use saturation on pictures in Photoshop - it introduces way too much garbage (like those weird lines you mentioned), and this is true for any kind of picture, be it illustration or photo. At 5-10% you won't notice much, but beyond that it can really scr*w up the image. If you need to alter the colors, use instead either Curves, or Selective colors, with "Relative", and change only those colors, that need to be changed (e.g. to strengthen Red, take out from it Cyan and add Magenta and Yellow, to saturate blue, add Cyan, a little magenta and take out yellow, and so on).
Hope it will help.
Btw, your gallery is beautiful
Best regards |
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thomasamby
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:58 pm
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For some reason, I can't even choose the bright colors! When I go to the color panel and choose, for example, a very bright green color it turns out dull when I apply it to the shape. Also, in the color panel there is a little square in the upper right corner with an exclamation mark and the dull color it will return when applied.
Perhaps my Illustrator does this to prevent me from using colors that "are not allowed", so I will never get surprised when I save it as JPG. Perhaps you can do the same thing with yours? (I don't know where to adjust this though)
I have no idea why the brightest colors can't be applied though, but it's fine with me. |
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kaycee
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Posts: 3607
Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:08 am
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Thanks .....
I always use RGB color settings in AI PS but I have to try use the level adjustments more or indeed just select the color that needs to be changed....
I noticed it just a week ago when using the very bright green and turquoise colors, befor I never saw the color change ......
Normaly when making a vector I transfer it to PS to make a JPG version and never ever had to change the color before, it was just fine....
I tried to find the switch (gamut) but I also didn't find it.... |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:56 am
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The main benefit of CMYK is that if you have your printed color map you never can make mistake in colors!
See this link:
http://www.tintbooks.com/products.asp
So, that is why I use only CMYK when I work on illustrations.
The main catch here is that most of my illustrations have kind of washed-out look in RGB due to RGB limits... But, prints are perfect!
The other is that when I make web page or similar - then I use web-safe colors (and only then it is RGB) ;-) |
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kaycee
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Posts: 3607
Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:23 am
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| milinz wrote: | The main benefit of CMYK is that if you have your printed color map you never can make mistake in colors!
See this link:
http://www.tintbooks.com/products.asp
So, that is why I use only CMYK when I work on illustrations.
The main catch here is that most of my illustrations have kind of washed-out look in RGB due to RGB limits... But, prints are perfect!
The other is that when I make web page or similar - then I use web-safe colors (and only then it is RGB) ;-) |
Yes I know about CMYK ....I start with CMYK but before saving I switch to RGB.
I thought we must submit in RGB or are we allowed for illustration to use CMYK...???
If so let the fun begin..... |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:29 am
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| kaycee wrote: | | milinz wrote: | The main benefit of CMYK is that if you have your printed color map you never can make mistake in colors!
See this link:
http://www.tintbooks.com/products.asp
So, that is why I use only CMYK when I work on illustrations.
The main catch here is that most of my illustrations have kind of washed-out look in RGB due to RGB limits... But, prints are perfect!
The other is that when I make web page or similar - then I use web-safe colors (and only then it is RGB) ;-) |
Yes I know about CMYK ....I start with CMYK but before saving I switch to RGB.
I thought we must submit in RGB or are we allowed for illustration to use CMYK...???
If so let the fun begin..... |
;-)
All my EPS files (except those targeted for RGB use) are CMYK. Thumbnails and rasterized versions I convert to RGB and surely with "APPLY ICC PROFILE" ON. |
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kaycee
Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Posts: 3607
Location: Limburg The Netherlands or at www.kaycee.nl
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:37 am
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| milinz wrote: | | kaycee wrote: | | milinz wrote: | The main benefit of CMYK is that if you have your printed color map you never can make mistake in colors!
See this link:
http://www.tintbooks.com/products.asp
So, that is why I use only CMYK when I work on illustrations.
The main catch here is that most of my illustrations have kind of washed-out look in RGB due to RGB limits... But, prints are perfect!
The other is that when I make web page or similar - then I use web-safe colors (and only then it is RGB) ;-) |
Yes I know about CMYK ....I start with CMYK but before saving I switch to RGB.
I thought we must submit in RGB or are we allowed for illustration to use CMYK...???
If so let the fun begin..... |
;-)
All my EPS files (except those targeted for RGB use) are CMYK. Thumbnails and rasterized versions I convert to RGB and surely with "APPLY ICC PROFILE" ON. |
Thanks I will try it next time .... |
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jagoda
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
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Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:40 am
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Don't worry about colours. Most of people are color blind, ok. one half of them, the other one change the colors. If the art is fine, not-ideally-perfect colors is not a big problem. |
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christopherhall
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:30 am
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Hi,
Sorry to but in but I have a kind of related question.
Sometimes when I save a file and open it again I get a message saying that the file contains both RGB and CMYK colour profiles. How does this happen as I always work in RGB?
Chris |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:31 am
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| christopherhall wrote: | Hi,
Sorry to but in but I have a kind of related question.
Sometimes when I save a file and open it again I get a message saying that the file contains both RGB and CMYK colour profiles. How does this happen as I always work in RGB?
Chris |
In CorelDraw or in Illustrator? |
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christopherhall
Joined: 16 Oct 2005
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Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:04 am
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It is il Illustrator. |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:18 am
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| christopherhall wrote: | | It is il Illustrator. |
Hmmm...
If you use swatches and illustrator custom colors then there is great probability to get such mixed results... So, in swatches there are mixed colors (RGB and CMYK). Always set workspace to CMYK or RGB and that should be enough... But, some old versions can't do it: Save EPS > close illustrator > open illustrator and load your EPS > Then you get window with possibility to choose RGB or CMYK and you are done... |
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