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shevs
Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:16 pm
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As for certified copies:
i know in Belgium this is not a big deal and hope it might work like this for the rest of you as well. You just take the original and the copy to the city-hall/house (=municipality house, lol dunno in english) where they put a stamp and a signature on it and..presto!
This ITIN procedure sounds like a real pain though...please SS, really no way around it?
If i cant get it no way im paying 30% taxes on 0,25cents per picture. Going exclusive somewhere else would be faaar more beneficial. (but i dont want to if i dont have to!)
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sistersnl
Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:16 pm
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| jmpaget wrote: | | sistersnl wrote: | | I don't understand it either, especially how to obtain a certified copy of my passport. According to the irs site I have to travel to another country to obtain that. So no Identification number for me and if they withold 30% I quit. |
I think a certified copy of your passport is obtained by a trip to a solicitors office |
Yes but not all are approved, just those mentioned on the IRS website. |
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mackin43
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Joined: 20 Mar 2008
Posts: 427
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:16 pm
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Hi lissic,
The ITIN form is necessary to fulfill the W8BEN.
-jm
| lissic wrote: | Hello,
I am from Germany and cannot believe I have to provide this ITIN number.
ALL agencies I am working with have given up this painful procedure. Even Getty only requires a W8BEN without the ITIN.
Please Shutterstock let me just send my W8BEN without the cost and the pain that is involved in obtaining an ITIN. |
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mackin43
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:18 pm
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Croatia does not have a tax treaty with the U.S.
-jm
| jasminam wrote: | | What is IRS Withholding Rates for Croatia? |
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mschmeling
Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 107
Location: Kassel, Germany
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:19 pm
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| mackin43 wrote: | Hi lissic,
The ITIN form is necessary to fulfill the W8BEN.
-jm
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This is certainly wrong. Even my american stockbroker never required an ITIN. Check the rules again, please. |
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anmax
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 38
Location: Toronto
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:19 pm
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| mackin43 wrote: | Hi lissic,
The ITIN form is necessary to fulfill the W8BEN.
-jm
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I have filled W8BEN for a few companies and never needed ITIN. And none of them withholds any taxes after that.
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mackin43
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:20 pm
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Yes and no - 30% will be held, but it goes to the IRS - it is NOT retained by Shutterstock.
| aetherial wrote: | My question is:
if a contributor is a non-US resident of a country that doesn't have a tax withholding treaty with USA (such as my country for instance), does that mean that said contributor doesn't have to fill any forms and shutterstock by default retains 30% of his earnings?
if such contributor doesn't fill any of those forms, is that situation OK with IRS, I mean, is it legal and you're not breaking any US law - just forget about 30% of one's proceedings. I wouldn't want to be unable to enter US one day because of some beaurecratic mumbo-jumbo that I didn't know anything about and couldn't do anything about... |
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kerstinw
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:22 pm
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I sent several W8-BEN forms to different companies and was never asked for that ITIN. |
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abimages
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 29
Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:22 pm
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| shevs wrote: | As for certified copies:
i know in Belgium this is not a big deal and hope it might work like this for the rest of you as well. You just take the original and the copy to the city-hall/house (=municipality house, lol dunno in english) where they put a stamp and a signature on it and..presto!
This ITIN procedure sounds like a real pain though...please SS, really no way around it?
If i cant get it no way im paying 30% taxes on 0,25cents per picture. Going exclusive somewhere else would be faaar more beneficial. (but i dont want to if i dont have to!) |
It's irrelevant (to me) how easy or hard it is to get certified copies done. I'm not prepared to jump through hoops to prove to them I'm a UK resident! Simple. |
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mackin43
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:22 pm
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Hi zmajdoo,
That is correct.
-jm
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luceluceluce
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Location: Aquafun, Minsk
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:23 pm
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| sistersnl wrote: | | jmpaget wrote: | | sistersnl wrote: | | I don't understand it either, especially how to obtain a certified copy of my passport. According to the irs site I have to travel to another country to obtain that. So no Identification number for me and if they withold 30% I quit. |
I think a certified copy of your passport is obtained by a trip to a solicitors office |
Yes but not all are approved, just those mentioned on the IRS website. |
Are you saying that you can only get your passport certified by an approved IRS solicitor?
My chances of finding one of those in a 3000km radius... ?
Hope you're not saying that.
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zu1u
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 77
Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:25 pm
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I have another question..
I am from Romania, we have acording to the irs website a 10% agreement with the king poop US gov, the problem is the SS has enforced an aditional restriction on romanian users' payments [90 days], as we seem all to be deprived of basic human rights and are percieved as thieves without the benefit of doubt. What I'm asking is in what form will the ammount withheld be computed from my earnings as I haven't yet received a payment [going on a month and a half with the site]? Will I be deprived of 10% from the time I get my 1st payment? Or will the calculations be done in a fair way [10% of the earnings I will make starting from now or whenver this decision will be adopted]. |
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luceluceluce
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Posts: 2585
Location: Aquafun, Minsk
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:25 pm
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| mackin43 wrote: | Yes and no - 30% will be held, but it goes to the IRS - it is NOT retained by Shutterstock.
| aetherial wrote: | My question is:
if a contributor is a non-US resident of a country that doesn't have a tax withholding treaty with USA (such as my country for instance), does that mean that said contributor doesn't have to fill any forms and shutterstock by default retains 30% of his earnings?
if such contributor doesn't fill any of those forms, is that situation OK with IRS, I mean, is it legal and you're not breaking any US law - just forget about 30% of one's proceedings. I wouldn't want to be unable to enter US one day because of some beaurecratic mumbo-jumbo that I didn't know anything about and couldn't do anything about... |
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And, if we cant complete the paperwork in time, how do we get the tax back from the IRS? Would we need a lawyer to do that - or do you do that automatically for us?
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sistersnl
Joined: 30 Jul 2008
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:26 pm
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| luceluceluce wrote: | | sistersnl wrote: | | jmpaget wrote: | | sistersnl wrote: | | I don't understand it either, especially how to obtain a certified copy of my passport. According to the irs site I have to travel to another country to obtain that. So no Identification number for me and if they withold 30% I quit. |
I think a certified copy of your passport is obtained by a trip to a solicitors office |
Yes but not all are approved, just those mentioned on the IRS website. |
Are you saying that you can only get your passport certified by an approved IRS solicitor?
My chances of finding one of those in a 3000km radius... ?
Hope you're not saying that.
x |
Yep that's what it says on the IRS website : an IRS-authorized Acceptance Agent...... |
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madburst
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 93
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:26 pm
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How to catch a mouse:
Setup 15 traps.
At the trap where the mouse finds that the cheese smells the best it gets caught.
Have fun... |
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