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igabrielle
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Posts: 91
Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:25 pm
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| medicalsys wrote: | | Multumesc si eu Gabi pentru initiativa! Sper sa reusim sa facem un plan pas cu pas pe intelesul nostru si pe limba noastra. |
Buna Dimineata (Good morning),
Ma bucur ca a fost o idee buna ( Glad it was a good idea).
Am primit un mesaj privat de la "mateimiruna" dar continutul e banned se pare.
Cat despre nebunia cu apostila am gasit acest articol: http://www.apostile.ro/apostila.
Deci apostila se primeste ori de la tribunal ori prefectura ( se pare ca aveam dreptate).
On short in english for the admins: Received a PM from mateimiruna but was banned and found an article on the apostile so it seems we received it from the court house or the subdivision of the cityhall.
Gabriela |
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anyra
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:34 pm
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Neata la toti! Good morning.
But what about the official document to prove that we are paying the taxes in US? Has anybody any idea about it?
Uitati aici scrie cineva step-by-step cum tre facut si completat:
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62445 |
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medveh
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 1829
Location: Transylvania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:27 am
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Can anyone confirm that we really need our passport copy the apostiled way? Where is it written, I didn't see it at IRS website I think it's just not necessary, but prove me wrong if you have seen such instructions that require it. |
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zu1u
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 77
Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:29 am
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O copie legalizata e acum in jur de 6ron/pagina, si trimiterea scrisorii in america era cam 8 ron acum doi ani.
Apostila am impresia ca costa un pic mai mult.
A legalized copy is about 6 ron and mailing a letter to the us was about 8. The apostille is a bit more I think. |
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xalanx
Joined: 06 Aug 2007
Posts: 379
Location: www.catalinpetolea.com
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:40 am
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I think I'll wait some more and really decide what to do. I'm soon to get to the 0.36 payment level and if I do the papers I'll get from 0.33 to... 0.324 because they'll take 10%. So much for a raise.
I'm not in a hurry, even if it'll pass a month withholding 30%.
See this too, its still waiting a final response from the admin: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/abt62397.html
Apparently the tax should be applied only for US-based customers. So if your images are bought by people in another country, well then... we're still waiting for an answer. |
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cflorinc
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 134
Location: Transylvania, Romania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:54 am
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What if I don't have a passport or driving license? |
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medveh
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 1829
Location: Transylvania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:05 am
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| cflorinc wrote: | | What if I don't have a passport or driving license? |
Check the list on page 2 if you don't have a passport you can still show 2 or more other documents. |
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igabrielle
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Posts: 91
Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:14 am
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| xalanx wrote: | I think I'll wait some more and really decide what to do. I'm soon to get to the 0.36 payment level and if I do the papers I'll get from 0.33 to... 0.324 because they'll take 10%. So much for a raise.
I'm not in a hurry, even if it'll pass a month withholding 30%.
See this too, its still waiting a final response from the admin: http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/abt62397.html
Apparently the tax should be applied only for US-based customers. So if your images are bought by people in another country, well then... we're still waiting for an answer. |
I am not rushing into it either since I have quite a busy schedule for the next two weeks and wont be in a major city until the 1st june...so ...waiting... |
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pilgrimartworks
Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Posts: 78
Location: Romania
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medveh
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 1829
Location: Transylvania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:43 am
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I think you're right, especially that IRS is not asking for an apostiled version as far as I know. |
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xalanx
Joined: 06 Aug 2007
Posts: 379
Location: www.catalinpetolea.com
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 2:50 am
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copy / paste from w-7:
"Have the copies notarized by a foreign notary. However, foreign
notaries are only acceptable as outlined by the Hague Convention.
The Hague Convention provides for the simplified certification of
public (including notarized) documents to be used in countries that
have joined the Convention. A certification will be issued in the form
of an "apostille," which will be attached to the copy of the
document. If the document originates in a country that is not party to
the Convention, applicants should have the document certified by
the foreign authority that issued it." |
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zu1u
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 77
Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:46 am
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| xalanx wrote: | copy / paste from w-7:
"Have the copies notarized by a foreign notary. However, foreign
notaries are only acceptable as outlined by the Hague Convention.
The Hague Convention provides for the simplified certification of
public (including notarized) documents to be used in countries that
have joined the Convention. A certification will be issued in the form
of an "apostille," which will be attached to the copy of the
document. If the document originates in a country that is not party to
the Convention, applicants should have the document certified by
the foreign authority that issued it." |
That can't be good. The apostille would go about 30RON. meaning the whole set of documents would be something around 50 ron. A bit much for me, a student. More so considering the papers might get lost in the mail or I might get declined. |
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anyra
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Posts: 17
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:41 am
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and where we can notarize the passport with that apostile ?
asa ma enerveaza ca s-a starnit toata agitatia asta fara sa se raspunda la toate intrebarile. Au aruncat o pietricica in lac si de acolo... tsunami. Nu s-au gandit in avans la toate problemele.
so we wait... right? at least for the us or non-us sales thing figured it out. |
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medveh
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Posts: 1829
Location: Transylvania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:25 am
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| xalanx wrote: | copy / paste from w-7:
"Have the copies notarized by a foreign notary. However, foreign
notaries are only acceptable as outlined by the Hague Convention.
The Hague Convention provides for the simplified certification of
public (including notarized) documents to be used in countries that
have joined the Convention. A certification will be issued in the form
of an "apostille," which will be attached to the copy of the
document. If the document originates in a country that is not party to
the Convention, applicants should have the document certified by
the foreign authority that issued it." |
That's quite bad news indeed, thanks for finding it anyways! |
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mateimiruna
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 730
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:49 am
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Iata cum se poate obtine ITIN:
1. Realizati o copie legalizata a pasaportului la orice notariat.
2. Aplicati apostila pe copie la tribunalul pe raza caruia aveti domiciliul. Apostila nu se cere si nici nu se pune pe documente originale. Apostila este doar o supralegalizare.
3. Tipariti emailul primit de la Shutterstock, prin care sunteti anuntati ca trebuie sa platiti impozit catre guvernul SUA
4. Descarcati formularul W7 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw7.pdf
5. Completati-l cu mare grija astfel:
* La Reason you are submitting alegeti a si h .
* Deasupra punctelor de la h scrieti fara ghilimele: "Exception 1d - Third party witholding tax on passive income royalties (royalties on photographic sales)"
* Sub h, la Additional information for a and f: Enter treaty country>Romania iar la and treaty article number>12(2)
* Completati numele, adresa postala(la aceasta adresa vi se vor returna documentele originale si notificarea scrisa ITIN), data nasterii
* Persoanele care si-au schimbat numele, trebuie sa completeze la 1b, numele din certificatul de nastere.
* La 6a treceti ROMANIA
* La 6b, 6c, 6f si 6g scrieti N/A. Atentie!!! Sa nu scrieti NA in loc de N/A. Se anuleaza formularul.
* La 6d bifati documentele pe care le trimiteti o data cu formularul.
* In caseta de semnatura Sign Here: semnati, treceti data si un numar de telefon
Puneti toate documentele(formularul W7, pasaportul - original sau copie) intr-un plic si expediati-l pe adresa:
Internal Revenue Service
Austin Service Center
ITIN Operation
P.O. Box 149342
Austin, TX 78714-9342
Documente care pot inlocui pasaportul sau copia acestuia:
- certificat de nastere
- permis de conducere
- livret militar(nu va recomand)
- carte de identitate
- carte de alegator
Daca nu trimiteti pasaportul sau copia acestuia, trebuie sa trimiteti doua din documentele mentionate mai sus, fie in original(nu recomand), fie in copie legalizata la notariat si apostilata la tribunalul pe raza caruia aveti domiciliul. Documentele trebuie sa fie valabile, sa faca dovada identitatii(sa contina numele dumneavoastra) si sa intareasca faptul ca nu sunteti cetatean american. Documentele cu fata dubla trebuie sa aiba copii ale ambelor fete incluse. Cel putin unul din documente trebuie sa contina fotografia dumneavoastra.
Cei care trimit documente originale nu trebuie sa trimita si plic autoadresat, deoarce IRS returneaza documentele originale(nu si copiile legalizate) in plicuri proprii, o data cu instiintarea ITIN.
Procedura poate dura si 18 luni!!!
Nu stiu cat costa apostilarea, dar daca este mai scumpa decat un pasaport nou, prefer sa trimit originalul prin posta.
Dupa obtinerea ITIN, ultimul pas este completarea formularului W-8BEN, Certificate of Foreign Status of Beneficial Owner for United States Tax Withholding. Am inteles ca completarea acestui ultim formular va fi posibila online pe site-ul Shutterstock.
Ca solutie pentru a evita taxarea cu 30%, ridicati nivelul de retragere peste suma din cont, pana v-ati rezolvat problema. Va doresc succes!
Note for admins: above are instructions in Romanian language on how to apply for ITIN.
Doamne ajuta!
Cu sinceritate,
Regele IONESCU |
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