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zu1u
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:26 am
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Multumim pentru detalii.
Cam asta ar fi procedura insa eu ultima oara cand am facut o apostilare, acum vre-o 3 ani s-a facut la prefectura, si am fost nevoit sa achit o taxa la cec. Este buna ideea cu trimisul pasaportului original, si-asa o sa-mi expire. |
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jules
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:39 am
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Salutare oameni buni,
Am postat si pe threadul principal, dar am fost ingropat instantaneu....
| Quote: | Hi everyone,
I do not have the time to read all the posts in this 70+ page thread, and maybe this issue has already been addressed....
I found this document on the internet...
Withholding Tax on Payments to Non-US Citizens - Payee Guide
The Internal Revenue Service requires us to withhold tax on payments for any type of personal
compensation, including fellowships and honoraria, made to any person having substantial physical
presence in the US who is not a US citizen or permanent resident, unless the individual claims exemption
under a code of a legitimate tax treaty between the person's country of residence and the US. (See IRS
Publication 901 or 515 for a list of these countries.)
Unfortunately, complications in determining payees' tax status arise because of the various reasons for
your presence in the US, the length of your stay and the different types of visas you have. Below is a
simplified explanation of the ways to determine whether or not we will need to withhold tax on your
payments.
What we need to find out from every fellow or honorarium recipient who is to receive payments in the US
is whether you are a "resident alien" or "non-resident alien."
A "resident alien" is normally someone who has a green card to live permanently in the US and who files
an annual income tax return to the IRS. Resident aliens must have US social security numbers. These
people will be treated in the same manner as US citizens in that we will not withhold tax from your
payments. At the end of the calendar year, you will receive a Form 1099-misc on which your total annual
amount received from the SSRC will be reported (this information is sent to the IRS as well.)
A "non-resident alien" is normally someone who is present in the US* only temporarily to attend an
institute of higher education, to undertake research, or to teach. Many of our fellows fall under this
category. These people usually have the intention of returning to their country of residence after they
have completed their work here. This is the category of people for whom we must withhold 14% of any
fellowship payments made to them unless they can legitimately claim exemption from withholding. If
you fit into this category, at the end of the calendar year, you will receive a Form 1042S on which the
gross payment and the amount withheld will be shown (a copy is also sent to the IRS.) It is your
responsibility to file the necessary income tax returns to the IRS before leaving the US.
The only way a non-resident alien can avoid having the 14% withheld is to submit to the Council a Form
W-8BEN (copy enclosed.) This form must be filled out correctly and completely by you, the payee,
showing the treaty article citation under which you can legitimately claim exemption. It is your
responsibility to find out this information. We can only recommend that you obtain IRS Publication 515
or 901, which list the countries with tax treaties with the US, or seek assistance from your university. The
SSRC must have form W8-BEN on file in the finance office before the first payment is due to be released
to you in order for the exemption to be in effect.
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* Please see IRS Publication 519 “U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens” for the “substantial presence test” and
further information on resident vs. non-resident alien status.
I don't know if it is an official document or it is just a part of the original one, but it states that the "non-resident alien" and "resident alien" MUST live in US to pay this tax. We are talking about the same tax/law? Is there a new one?
When I saw the email I hoped this was a joke! |
Probabil ca a fost adaptata de curand, dar oricum pare a fi undeva in zona gri a legislatiei... Nu vreau sa aud de IRS.... si procedura pare ffff complicata....
Bafta celor care au rabdarea, curajul si motivatia pentru a se angrena in... "chestia" asta
Toate cele bune! |
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igooana
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 37
Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:35 pm
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I still didn't get the answer to my question: what does it happen if i didn't receive the email from shutterstock. Maybe i should have to mention that i didn't get any payment yet. Should i worry about all this from now? Should i get the papers ready for the moment i will get my payment??Or should i get a model from the emails you got and start things so they won't get 30%
Please someone let me know |
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zu1u
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 76
Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:45 pm
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| igooana wrote: | I still didn't get the answer to my question: what does it happen if i didn't receive the email from shutterstock. Maybe i should have to mention that i didn't get any payment yet. Should i worry about all this from now? Should i get the papers ready for the moment i will get my payment??Or should i get a model from the emails you got and start things so they won't get 30%
Please someone let me know |
No need to worry it has been confirmed that not everyone received an email, but everyone will eventually.
If I were you I'd wait for an official reply as whether we can actually use the email we got, we may need a signed version. |
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zu1u
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 76
Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:08 am
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Well acording to the update http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62633 we are advised to wait for clarification on the letter matter, and not send any ITIN applications.
As for the taxes they indeed apply to US customers ONLY, that's a load off my mind. |
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sarpe_rom
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:43 am
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Eu nu am inteles la cat o sa scada taxa daca completam formularele respective. Daca nu le completam ne ia 30%, daca o facem cat o sa ne ia?
Numai bine! |
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igabrielle
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Posts: 35
Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:07 am
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| sarpe_rom wrote: | Eu nu am inteles la cat o sa scada taxa daca completam formularele respective. Daca nu le completam ne ia 30%, daca o facem cat o sa ne ia?
Numai bine! |
Pentru Romani va scadea la 10 %. |
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medicalsys
Joined: 05 Feb 2006
Posts: 14
Location: Romania, Roman
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:07 am
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| sarpe_rom wrote: | Eu nu am inteles la cat o sa scada taxa daca completam formularele respective. Daca nu le completam ne ia 30%, daca o facem cat o sa ne ia?
Numai bine! |
Din cate vad in lista 10 % ! |
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medveh
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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Location: Transylvania
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:38 am
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10% dar numai din pozele vandute pentru clienti din Statele Unite. |
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petrisor
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:31 am
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| medveh wrote: | | 10% dar numai din pozele vandute pentru clienti din Statele Unite. |
Serios? Si daca nu completez nimic, atunci imi ia 30% doar din pozele vandute in State ? |
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anyra
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:51 am
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dap, daca nu declari se iau 30% din cele cumparate din US.
am si eu o intrebare, daca stiti cumva.Cum o sa declar restul in ro, pentru impozit? O sa fie cam ciudat sa tinem cont care bani sunt de la non-us si tre platit in ro 16% si pe care am platit deja 10%, nu? |
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mateimiruna
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:59 am
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| anyra wrote: | dap, daca nu declari se iau 30% din cele cumparate din US.
am si eu o intrebare, daca stiti cumva.Cum o sa declar restul in ro, pentru impozit? O sa fie cam ciudat sa tinem cont care bani sunt de la non-us si tre platit in ro 16% si pe care am platit deja 10%, nu? |
Platesti 10%, pentru ca sunt drepturi de autor(nu 16%), si se calculeaza la suma care iti intra efectiv in contul tau bancar, indiferent de unde provi si indiferent daca ai platit deja 10% catre IRS. Eu am cautat, dar inca nu am gasit evitarea dublei impuneri in relatie cu SUA. In tratatul Ro - US spune doar ca fiecare stat semnatar poate taxa sumele provenind din activitati culturale, inclusiv drepturi de autor. |
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anyra
Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:00 am
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merci.
da cred ca tre sa existe o reglementare cum sa se evide dubla taxatie. O sa mai caut si eu. |
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narcisa
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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Location: Oradea, Romania
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mateimiruna
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:01 pm
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La art 22 din tratat (Nediscriminarea) spune ca nu putem fi impozitati mai mult decat un cetatean SUA in privinta acelorasi venituri. Trebuie de aflat cat impozit plateste un cetatean SUA pentru drepturi de autor. |
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