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petercoupe
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:46 pm
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Hello,
I'm using Flash MX and a Wacom tablet to create hand drawn animations for the footage section, and wondered if anyone could give advice on what size to work in, format to output to, fps, etc.
I do shoot video, though I don't submit, at 720 x 576, 25 fps, output via motionjpg B in Premiere Pro.
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eternalspline
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:31 pm
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Can you do full HD? I like 30 FPS Progressive for footage, then output QT motion Jpeg B |
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dapoopta
Joined: 28 Nov 2007
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Location: 10,000 shutter clicks away from PRO
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:47 pm
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Agree with Eternal. Do 1920x1080, 30fps. and let the end user down convert. If your computer can't handle it, go for 1280x720, 30fps.
Good luck :-) |
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eternalspline
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:13 pm
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Long time no see Scott |
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chatterbox
Joined: 05 May 2008
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Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:02 pm
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| dapoopta wrote: | Agree with Eternal. Do 1920x1080, 30fps. and let the end user down convert. If your computer can't handle it, go for 1280x720, 30fps.
Good luck :-) |
Hallo again,
I'm reading through all the footage forums as I'm a bit lost with this. You guys are probably going to get bored with me but I promise to keep my questions as few as possible.
1920x1080, 30fps - is 1920x1080 the size of each clip? and 30fpd the time between the clips?
Also, when I upload the movie, do I have to upload the clips I used as well. I'm doing illustration ones.
Thanks for your help. |
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eternalspline
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:36 pm
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30 FPS is the speed of the clip play back, so the Quick time will play at 30 frames per second.
When you upload you will want to do it in single quick time clips, by that I mean you can upload 30 of them or 50 of them but each one will be separate not strung togeather there is a few different standard lengths for clips I always do mine the same length so I don't know the standards off hand. I think the max is 30 seconds? Not sure...
You don't need to upload your source materials just the finished product.
"1920x1080 the size of each clip?"
That's HD size, and yes if you can make that the size of your outputted Quick time clips. |
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chatterbox
Joined: 05 May 2008
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Location: Ireland
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:55 pm
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| eternalspline wrote: | 30 FPS is the speed of the clip play back, so the Quick time will play at 30 frames per second.
When you upload you will want to do it in single quick time clips, by that I mean you can upload 30 of them or 50 of them but each one will be separate not strung togeather there is a few different standard lengths for clips I always do mine the same length so I don't know the standards off hand. I think the max is 30 seconds? Not sure...
You don't need to upload your source materials just the finished product.
"1920x1080 the size of each clip?"
That's HD size, and yes if you can make that the size of your outputted Quick time clips. |
Hallo Bryan
Wow, just looked at your footage. Awsome (if I can use a kids expression. :)
Thank you so much for answering the questions for me. Now I understand it a bit better. Just have to be clear about two other points if you don't mind.
| Quote: | | That's HD size, and yes if you can make that the size of your outputted Quick time clips. |
'HD size'/ 'outputted Quick time clips' - what does that mean please?
I also make the movie in Windows Movie Maker. How do I save it to be accepted by SS?
Thank you again for your reply. I really appreciate it. Maybe one day I can create fantastic footage as you do. Thank you |
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eternalspline
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:21 pm
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Thanks! =0)
Quicktime clips is like the type of movie format. Do you have any experience with stills?
HD size, you know how they have HD tvs? Well the picture is bigger with more pixels so graphics for an HD TV need to be in the HD size.
1920x1080 is the exact size.
I think you might be jumping in with both feet with this though. You might want to do a little reading first. I don't use Windows Movie Maker so I cant really direct you on what exactly to do. |
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chatterbox
Joined: 05 May 2008
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Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:29 am
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| eternalspline wrote: | Thanks! =0)
Quicktime clips is like the type of movie format. Do you have any experience with stills?
HD size, you know how they have HD tvs? Well the picture is bigger with more pixels so graphics for an HD TV need to be in the HD size.
1920x1080 is the exact size.
I think you might be jumping in with both feet with this though. You might want to do a little reading first. I don't use Windows Movie Maker so I cant really direct you on what exactly to do. |
Hallo again.. :)
Thanks for the info. Ok, got it on the HD size. As for stills, I have no idea what that is.
I think you are correct at saying that I'm jumping in with both feet. I'll keep on doing my illustrations in the meantime and do loads more reading. Once I'm on track again, I'll give it a go. Thanks again for all your help and advise. It's got me a bit closer to getting there but will do a bit more research on it all.
Have a great day, thanks. :) |
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eternalspline
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:18 pm
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Stills like non moving images, I figured you might be from the still side of Shutterstock.
Good luck with every thing. |
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chatterbox
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:10 pm
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| eternalspline wrote: | Stills like non moving images, I figured you might be from the still side of Shutterstock.
Good luck with every thing. |
Ahh, yes, that would be me. A few photographs but mostly illustrations. Will deffo look into the footage stuff when I know more. Goes to show, an old dog can learn new tricks...lol. Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated. |
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eternalspline
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:35 pm
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No problem ask any thing any time. |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Location: Planet Earth
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:58 pm
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| chatterbox wrote: | | dapoopta wrote: | Agree with Eternal. Do 1920x1080, 30fps. and let the end user down convert. If your computer can't handle it, go for 1280x720, 30fps.
Good luck :-) |
Hallo again,
I'm reading through all the footage forums as I'm a bit lost with this. You guys are probably going to get bored with me but I promise to keep my questions as few as possible.
1920x1080, 30fps - is 1920x1080 the size of each clip? and 30fpd the time between the clips?
Also, when I upload the movie, do I have to upload the clips I used as well. I'm doing illustration ones.
Thanks for your help. |
Regarding previous answers I feel that not everything is clear so here I will try to define it on the best way I can:
1. 1 frame is one picture (as on film).
2. FPS means Frames per second shown.
3. In some cases as for example PAL, NTSC, SECAM and Full HD there are 2 halfframes shown as one frame and is called interlacing. For interlaced video you should use motion JPEG compression in Quick time.
4. The true movie speed when projected in cinemas is 24 fps - no interlacing. So you see 24 frames in one second. If you wish your video to look film-like then this speed is recommended! This kind of video is non-interlaced and so it has not have halfframes.
5. CG - Or computer generated graphic videos which are 3D animations, Flash, Screen captures, timelapse and similar are done usually on 24 or 25 FPS non-interlaced. Why? I don't really know - but that is what almost all people do. For such video you should use plain JPEG compression in Quick time.
5. More about formats and systems you can read here because it is too long for writing it again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video#Video_display_standards
I hope it helps.
Good luck! |
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hellem
Joined: 26 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:30 pm
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that is really helpful info. Just one more question. If I do a clip render from my 3D program, I also have an option to set the resolution. Is that 72 dpi ??
*sorry if this is a silly question*
Helle :-) |
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milinz
Joined: 10 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:56 pm
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| hellem wrote: | that is really helpful info. Just one more question. If I do a clip render from my 3D program, I also have an option to set the resolution. Is that 72 dpi ??
*sorry if this is a silly question*
Helle :-) |
If you use resolution of x pixels by y pixels then you don't need to care about resolution based on DPI. Usually resolution shown on monitors is 96dpi...
Try just with resolution in pixels and render not compressed frames. Then use your video editing software to import stills and export your clip(s)... |
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