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lukaszb


Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:35 am     Reply with quote

So I've been thinking about buying CorelDraw or Illustrator. I have both as eval copies and I like Corel for its simplicity. Illustrator seems to be too complex where it shouldn't be, for instance the pen tool and I find Corel more intuitive. Why did you decide on Illustrator vs. CorelDraw or vice versa? What are the limitations of either one when doing vectors for stock?
daemys


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Location: [The Sovereign Democracy State]

Post Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:07 pm     Reply with quote

My choice is Inkscape. Illustrator is only needed to create AI8 compatible eps files.
lukaszb


Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:32 pm     Reply with quote

daemys wrote:
My choice is Inkscape. Illustrator is only needed to create AI8 compatible epsfiles.


Very interesting choice. Why haven't I thought of this before? Where can I find some tutorials? If you could forward some links I'd really appreciate it.
princesszelda


Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 579
Location: London, UK

Post Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:26 pm     Reply with quote

daemys wrote:
My choice is Inkscape. Illustrator is only needed to create AI8 compatible eps files.


Daemys - I did use Inkscape, and did enjoy using it, but went back to Illustrator. I've had real problems with converting svg into eps. With one particular illustration, once it was converted to eps the file became super-enormous and it had cut up the image into lots and lots of teeny paths! How do you get around problems like this? :/

Lukaszb - I learned Inkscape mainly through this site: http://screencasters.heathenx.org/microsodes/
Hope it helps :)
gregor


Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 917
Location: Netherlands

Post Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:49 pm     Reply with quote

Illustrator is the market leader!
Maybe it's complex in the beginning, but if you get used to it , it can never get complex enough.
There are some useful third party plugins, and you can write actions and scripts to automate everything you want. (Can Coreldraw do that?)
Most recourses you find on the internet are about Illustrator.
If you use other creative suite apps like Photoshop, Flash, Acrobat Pro, Dreamweaver, After Effects....intergration of your vector files between those apps is very easy!
Did you know Illustrator is more than 20 years old, and existed before Photoshop?

No I am not a shareholder, and I don't work for Adobe but I like the program.
Is Illustrator the perfect program? No ofcourse not. It got bugs and it pisses me of once a while. But that happens with all the software.
So you gotta make the choise which software you want to learn.
Oh one more thing; if microstock doesn't work out and you want to find another job in the graphic industry..... Illustrator skills is what they ask for in most cases!
ericulla


Joined: 27 Jan 2008
Posts: 191
Location: barcellona, Italy, sicily

Post Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:01 am     Reply with quote

I use Corel Draw. I use it for 10 years. all pictures of my portfolios were created with Corel Draw and I think that is fantastic for is semplicity.
daemys


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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Location: [The Sovereign Democracy State]

Post Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:31 am     Reply with quote

lukaszb wrote:
daemys wrote:
My choice is Inkscape. Illustrator is only needed to create AI8 compatible epsfiles.


Very interesting choice. Why haven't I thought of this before? Where can I find some tutorials? If you could forward some links I'd really appreciate it.


http://www.inkscape.org/
daemys


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 1951
Location: [The Sovereign Democracy State]

Post Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:32 am     Reply with quote

princesszelda wrote:
daemys wrote:
My choice is Inkscape. Illustrator is only needed to create AI8 compatible eps files.


Daemys - I did use Inkscape, and did enjoy using it, but went back to Illustrator. I've had real problems with converting svg into eps. With one particular illustration, once it was converted to eps the file became super-enormous and it had cut up the image into lots and lots of teeny paths! How do you get around problems like this? :/

Lukaszb - I learned Inkscape mainly through this site: http://screencasters.heathenx.org/microsodes/
Hope it helps :)


I've never had a problem like this. Everything has always worked fine.
lukaszb


Joined: 21 Sep 2009
Posts: 151

Post Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:18 pm     Reply with quote

gregor wrote:
Illustrator is the market leader!
Maybe it's complex in the beginning, but if you get used to it , it can never get complex enough.
There are some useful third party plugins, and you can write actions and scripts to automate everything you want. (Can Coreldraw do that?)
Most recourses you find on the internet are about Illustrator.
If you use other creative suite apps like Photoshop, Flash, Acrobat Pro, Dreamweaver, After Effects....intergration of your vector files between those apps is very easy!
Did you know Illustrator is more than 20 years old, and existed before Photoshop?

No I am not a shareholder, and I don't work for Adobe but I like the program.
Is Illustrator the perfect program? No ofcourse not. It got bugs and it pisses me of once a while. But that happens with all the software.
So you gotta make the choise which software you want to learn.
Oh one more thing; if microstock doesn't work out and you want to find another job in the graphic industry..... Illustrator skills is what they ask for in most cases!


Those are some valid points but I can't justify why people are willing to pay so much more for Illustrator. It's kind of like I could never understand why office users suddenly quit working with WordPerfect and switched to Microsoft Word in the late 1990s. Anyway, I think Inkscape is pretty cool, there are some things that I find annoying like the fill crashes the app and perhaps the layout of some of the menus, but other than that it's pretty good application.
princesszelda


Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 579
Location: London, UK

Post Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:01 am     Reply with quote

daemys wrote:
princesszelda wrote:
daemys wrote:
My choice is Inkscape. Illustrator is only needed to create AI8 compatible eps files.


Daemys - I did use Inkscape, and did enjoy using it, but went back to Illustrator. I've had real problems with converting svg into eps. With one particular illustration, once it was converted to eps the file became super-enormous and it had cut up the image into lots and lots of teeny paths! How do you get around problems like this? :/


I've never had a problem like this. Everything has always worked fine.


Hmmm.... maybe I'll give it another try then. :)
gregor


Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 917
Location: Netherlands

Post Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:32 am     Reply with quote

lukaszb wrote:

Those are some valid points but I can't justify why people are willing to pay so much more for Illustrator.

Illustrator is expensive because Adobe wants you to buy more of their products.
If you use more than one of the Creative suite programs on a regular basis, it's not so expensive.
cthoman


Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Posts: 269
Location: Austin, TX

Post Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:52 am     Reply with quote

I have to agree with gregor. If you just want a program for making vectors, then Inkscape will probably fill that role. If you wanted to do graphic design work, then it would probably make sense to bite the bullet and get the Creative Suite. If you can get a student discount, then that really helps with the price.
lukaszb


Joined: 21 Sep 2009
Posts: 151

Post Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:53 pm     Reply with quote

cthoman wrote:
I have to agree with gregor. If you just want a program for making vectors, then Inkscape will probably fill that role. If you wanted to do graphic design work, then it would probably make sense to bite the bullet and get the Creative Suite. If you can get a student discount, then that really helps with the price.


I want something to create vectors. No design work. My only problem with Inkscape is that it crashes when I try and change the fill color of an object, otherwise it works pretty well. I still like CorelDraw and its simplicity, plus the price isn't bad at all.
gregor


Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 917
Location: Netherlands

Post Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:51 pm     Reply with quote

If vectors is all you want, did you also try Canvas?
Not a well known program, but seems to be pretty good!
http://store.acdsee.com/store/acd/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.78702300?resid=pAG0ZwoHAioAAAiiHRwAAAAQ&rests=1257191218307

Or maybe Raven? It's free ,but I don't know if it converts to eps.
http://aviary.com/tools/Raven
lilk


Joined: 01 Sep 2008
Posts: 3

Post Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:05 pm     Reply with quote

Have you looked into Xara? Inexpensive and it creates the correct files to upload.
 
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