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kenliu
Joined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 129
Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:50 pm
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A Few days ago, there was a tragedy happened at XinZhou city, HuBei province, China.
Two child were playing at banks of river, Careless they slide into river. Some university students who were passing by, jumped into water save the children, but unfortunately three of students drowned by whirlpool at river.
Originally that was an epic event, people sacrificed themselves for save another’s life. They are obviously hero. But the later investigate uncovered some terrible things.
When the students were drowning, there were some fish boats in the vicinity, the nearest boat just three or four meter side of the people who were struggling in water, but the fisherman at boat did nothing just watch person dead. Do you know the reason?
Many local people often swimming at river or playing at banks, so these fisherman’s good business is the body salvage. Every body they salvage should be paid about more than ten thousand RMB by Relatives of the deceased. So they would rather watch people drown than saving the life, just because body salvage will get the money but save life they get nothing.
A school Swimming Team often training at that river, teamer often saved person in accidents, so those fisherman were very hostile to the teamer and drive them away, because they thought the swimming team were ruining their business.
Some time, Relatives of the deceased could not immediately paid all the money, they salvage the body and tied at boat(body still soak into water). Until they get all the money they ask, then the body will give back to the relatives.
At that time, the rest of students who stay at bank were kneeling and begging them to save, but nothing happened. Three students dead at river, later the teachers of the students were kneeling and begging them to salvage the body, but nothing happened until they got the enough money they want……
What a terrible thing all this when I aware from the TV news. As human beings, how could those person are looking people dead and accounting how much money they will got. I am Shocked, I do not think they are human being, they are Murderer, they are Animal, Fucking Animal!!!! |
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ktgraphics
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
Posts: 638
Location: Ont, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:58 pm
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Thanks for sharing. I know its very terrible when more and more people are so Godless these days and their only God is money. :(
So terrible that some people have to think and act like chimpanzees. We are suppose to be better then that. :( |
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jenden2005
Joined: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 386
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:09 am
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Not much to be said; its just sad that anyone could do that. |
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galstyan
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Posts: 3181
Location: Yerevan,Armenia
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:05 am
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Sorry but what is the police doing ?
I can understand that it is not easy to sue the men in boat for not helping. But how they can stay in freedom after not giving the bodies to relatives? |
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princesszelda
Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 579
Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:19 am
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It makes me so angry and so very sad to read about such things.
The worst thing is that whenever we hear of stories such as this, there's nothing we can do, apart from talking about it. :( |
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jps
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 12094
Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:48 am
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That is cynical beyond my imagination.
It makes me fear chineese. |
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lilcrazyfuzzy
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Posts: 12926
Location: 50°46′31″N 6°4′58″E
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:02 am
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tragic, some people are just...bad to the bone |
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princesszelda
Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 579
Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:02 am
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| jps wrote: |
It makes me fear chineese. |
Kenliu is I'm sure, one of countless Chinese who are sad/angry/frustrated/horrified.
We have plenty of horrific things that happen in the Western world too. |
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jps
Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 12094
Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:21 am
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| princesszelda wrote: | | jps wrote: |
It makes me fear chineese. |
Kenliu is I'm sure, one of countless Chinese who are sad/angry/frustrated/horrified.
We have plenty of horrific things that happen in the Western world too. |
ja, thats right, we are not innocent.
But this is peacetime, out in the open... with spectators.
We have laws about it here: Not legal to leave a person in a helpless condition, fx by traffic accidents etc. |
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mikeledray
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
Posts: 17745
Location: The King of the Count Down!
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Susan
Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 5639
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khwi
Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 1569
Location: Not where I wanna be
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:44 am
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his is just so sad! |
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davidcrehner
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 4839
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:15 am
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| Susan wrote: | | I agree they are not human... |
Unfortunately, they are quite human. :-( That is the part that is so hard to accept. This is human nature, in some manifestation. I would like to think you and I would behave differently (and I'm pretty sure we would), but there are some who would not. They are just as human as you and I, and it's frightening.
A member of my family once made the comment that because of population history and trends in China, the Chinese have a different cultural value placed on life itself. I sort of poo-poohed him, but maybe there was a shadow of truth in his seemingly racist claim? Many stories of female babies "aborted"... after birth. And there is the old thing about how westerners, when faced with being able to only save their mother, wife or child, will almost always choose the child (of course). Apparently Chinese people most often choose the mother? Just saying, very different values surrounding life.
Please be clear, I'm not condoning such actions. They are vile and reprehensible to me. But let's not take the easy way out and say they are not human. |
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Susan
Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 5639
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:47 am
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| davidcrehner wrote: | | Susan wrote: | | I agree they are not human... |
Unfortunately, they are quite human. :-( That is the part that is so hard to accept. This is human nature, in some manifestation. I would like to think you and I would behave differently (and I'm pretty sure we would), but there are some who would not. They are just as human as you and I, and it's frightening.
A member of my family once made the comment that because of population history and trends in China, the Chinese have a different cultural value placed on life itself. I sort of poo-poohed him, but maybe there was a shadow of truth in his seemingly racist claim? Many stories of female babies "aborted"... after birth. And there is the old thing about how westerners, when faced with being able to only save their mother, wife or child, will almost always choose the child (of course). Apparently Chinese people most often choose the mother? Just saying, very different values surrounding life.
Please be clear, I'm not condoning such actions. They are vile and reprehensible to me. But let's not take the easy way out and say they are not human. |
I hear you David... lets just say they are void of the human traits I value.
In every society there are those who do not have a moral compass. They simply do not have a conscience. We call them sociopaths! They are capable of much greater social harm than those with the capacity for empathy and compassion.
Inside the Mind of a Sociopath
http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/spath.htm
Excerpt from: The Sociopath Next Door: The Ruthless vs. the Rest of Us by Martha Stout Ph.D.
"Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern of the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members.
Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.
Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.
You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience that they seldom even guess at your condition.
In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world. You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences, will most likely remain undiscovered." |
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davidcrehner
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 4839
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:51 am
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Hmm... that description almost makes it sound like a good thing!! :-O |
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