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coldarksun
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kenny123

Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 2603
Location: Masterton, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:22 am
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#1, Bird and vines:
a) Bird is too small in the image, and too centrally placed-(looks too static)
b) Sky is full of luma noise(Grain)
c) Purple and green fringing on vines
d) Whole image is underexposed
#2, Rose:
a) Badly lit
b) Nothing is in focus
c) background isn't white
d) Image is full of artefacts
Here is a better crop of the bird/vines image, to give you some idea of where to place the bird in classic composition.
Regards, Ken
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andrejstojs
Joined: 30 Oct 2007
Posts: 93
Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:44 am
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hi,
the image with the bird is underexposed, think it has some purple fringing along the branches. And it realy isnt a photo of the bird nor it is a photo of the tree. For bird you should crop it more and fot it to be a shot of a tree you should crop it less.
The rose looks beter. But as many people here pointed out it is beter to shoot in color rather than B&W. And i dont think it is as sharp as it should be. And the background is not pure white.
Anyhow thats how i see it.
Reguards Andrej
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coldarksun
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:35 pm
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Alrighty, thanks for the beatings.
jk i'm cool.
just a few questions though...
I'm not exactly sure what fringing is, what causes it or how to fix it. (i'm sure I can look it up quick on my own if there isn't a short answer)
How are these fixable in photoshop? or should I just let them go?
Are there any rules or regulations needed to follow when cropping an image for stock photography?
and if there's any advice on how i should approach these two if I would ever do so again would be cool.
Thanks for inputs kenny and andre.
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jps

Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 4408
Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:17 pm
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let them go.
shoot new ones. Like the rose again with better light and sneak in on the bird and make it fill the frame.
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straehle

Joined: 08 Jan 2007
Posts: 160
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:23 pm
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| Quote: | | I'm not exactly sure what fringing is, what causes it or how to fix it. |
Fringing is caused when you have a high contrast transition (between the limbs and the sky in your case). Look along the edges of the limbs very carefully and you will see some purple between the limb and the sky. It's often hard to see, but when I first saw your picture, I expected it would be there. Look in Photoshop Help under Lens Correction Filter, Correct ... lens flaws to see how to correct.
I don't think you can correct these pictures as they are. The crop of the bird picture to get to the example above would get you way below 4MP and even that may not be acceptable, but just a direction to take in the future. As far as the Rose is concerned, it looks soft and that usually can't be corrected in post.
Hope these help
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vesivus

Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 329
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:00 am
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Well, in my opinion and with technical evaluations aside, I think the shot with the bird has a good chance without the bird. It almost has an 'illustration' look without the illustration.
Shutterstock clients tend to like that sort of thing.
:)
John
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coldarksun
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:40 am
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Sweet. Thanks a ton everyone. I'll keep working at it.
Hopefully i'll get it right soon.
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pharm

Joined: 09 Jul 2006
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Location: A little bit askew
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