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mjurkowski


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Post Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:03 pm     Reply with quote

What do you think? LCV?


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mikenorton


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Location: Landscape Photography Guide Book www.mikenortonphotography.com/book.html

Post Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:53 pm     Reply with quote

Why does the tree have 2 shadows?
veinglory


Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:14 pm     Reply with quote

I think it would be better with the shadow toned down or removed.
mjurkowski


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:08 am     Reply with quote

The lower one is a reflection - not shadow. Didn't know it looks like 2nd shadow.
fraiseap


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:23 am     Reply with quote

I take it this is an illustration. I like it and I think it does have CV. I would get rid of the shadow and keep the reflection. Maybe add a bit of color to the reflection. (not as much as the tree itself).
mjurkowski


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:12 am     Reply with quote

Softened and reduced the shadow, reflection made more reflective :)

Let me know if it's still difficult to distinguish shadow from reflection. If yes, I'll remove the shadow.

tnx



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mikenorton


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:03 pm     Reply with quote

It's hard for me to tell when viewed at this size so I'll ask, is there detail in the reflection? In my pictures that have both reflections and a shadows there is detail in the reflections and the shadows are darker than the reflections. But I am looking at pictures where as you are posting a vector (it is a vector right?) and as the creator of the vector you can make reflections and shadows as dark or as detailed as you want. I might be comparing apples to oranges but that is the way I have photographed it in the natural world. Please don't get me wrong, I like it but I'm viewing it through a photographers eye and photographers are probably not your market, so I think that you should do what you feel works best. If you can't decide between shadow and no shadow then upload both and let the buyer make the decision.
mjurkowski


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:46 pm     Reply with quote

Here's a crop with both reflection and shadow visible. What do you think now? You're right this picture is specific (a lot of white) and when's small - difficult to recognize details.

Sorry for bothering too much. It's for my first 10 so that's why :)


No, it's not vector. It's 3D rendering.



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mikenorton


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:41 pm     Reply with quote

I like the detail in the reflection it helps to show that it is a reflection. I say upload it and see what happens. Now to show my ignorance, what is the difference between a vector and a 3D rendering?
veinglory


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:02 pm     Reply with quote

I like the shadow but IMHO it would be better without the reflection. The reflection is distracting and rendered in so much more detail than the crack that it seems odd.
mjurkowski


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Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:08 am     Reply with quote

mikenorton wrote:
I like the detail in the reflection it helps to show that it is a reflection. I say upload it and see what happens. Now to show my ignorance, what is the difference between a vector and a 3D rendering?


Vector graphic is when using tools like CorelDraw or Inkscape you actually DRAW everything. In example when you wonna make something shiny you literally draw light reflections etc.

You do 3D render in tools like 3DMAX, Maya, Blender etc. It's a bit more about DESIGNING then drawing. You design in 3D environment an object. Once you have it (the shape) you set lights, textures, camera etc. Once everything's in place you render the scene - computer calculates light rays etc. and generates the final look. Movies like Shrek, Madagaskar etc. are 3D renderings :)

Hope it answers your question. Thanks for help.
mikenorton


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Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:25 pm     Reply with quote

Thanks for the explanation, they both sound complicated.
 
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