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Rejected for poor lighting, WTF?

 
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italia


Joined: 03 Nov 2009
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:57 am     Reply with quote

I was just accepted by SS. Seven of my first 10 images were accepted, however I am mystified (but hardly crushed) by why the three images were rejected.

Two of them were labelled, "Poor or uneven lighting, or shadows. White balance may be incorrect."

Attached is one of the two images. I suppose someone could say the lighting is uneven because the sunlight is dappled across the trees surrounding the waterfall... but isn't that what makes it an above-average image of a common subject (waterfalls)???

I have another image (not posted here) which was also rejected for uneven lighting. It is an image of golden sunlight reflecting off the ocean. Of course it is going to have uneven lighting. Isn't even lighting generally considered, 'boring'???

If any of you can shed some light (hahaha) on what the hell SS means by, 'uneven lighting', or if you've had images rejected for this reason which also mystified you, I'd love to hear about it.

Is there any way to 'appeal' a rejection decision? I could understand if the image was rejected for being too 'common' or SS already has enough waterfall images, but rejection for 'poor/uneven lighting' makes no sense at all to me in the context of the below image.

Thanks in advance for any advice any of you can offer!

bred


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:20 am     Reply with quote

Underexposed.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:22 am     Reply with quote

You should post this in the Critique Forum. Also you need to post it in the correct way including a 100% crop. Here is an article on how to do that:

http://submit.shutterstock.com/newsletter/109/article1.html

Additionally the rejection you received is a multi part notice that covers several areas. The rejection could be due to any one or combination of the reasons given.

Just from looking at this one I would say that it was for the poor and uneven lighting. The colors in the image are on the dull side and there is limited detail in the shadows. This was probably caused by the metering of the image and the sky causing the meter to think the image was overall brighter than it actually was.

I can't tell for sure but I would also say that if we saw a crop of the trees the image would also have focus issues.

Is there a reason you shot this at f22? There is no need to use this small of an aperture for a shot like this unless you are trying to purposely use a slower shutter speed to try and blur the water.
italia


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:38 am     Reply with quote

thank you for the replies, critique and advice.

yes, I did shoot at f22 to blur the water and also for a deep depth of field. Perhaps f16 would have been a better choice.
hhltdave5


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:49 am     Reply with quote

italia wrote:
thank you for the replies, critique and advice.

yes, I did shoot at f22 to blur the water and also for a deep depth of field. Perhaps f16 would have been a better choice.


If you are working on blurring the water to give it that smokey look to it you will need to use a shutter speed of at least 1/25th of a second to get even the smallest about of special effects blur. To really get it to show 1 second exposure is not unusual. To do this you definitely need a tripod with release and some neutral density filters to get it to work the best.
franckreporter


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:49 pm     Reply with quote

ss prefer equilibrated photo and sharpened photo
antoine2000


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:20 pm     Reply with quote

increase exposure +1 and increase luminance


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mauijon


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:23 pm     Reply with quote

Now all the whites are blown out. Try using the shadow/highlight to open the shadows and the dodge controls on the waterfalls to make the water white instead of gray, but with some detail, as shown.


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sak12344


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:26 pm     Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I've received the "uneven lighting" rejection on images that were lighted with two power light 1500's, plus umbrellas, where both strobes were metered prior to shooting at the exact same f/stop. The lighting doesn't get any more "even" than that. :) I accept the rejection and just move on with making more new images. *shrug*
rinder99


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:57 am     Reply with quote

It was underexposed. Simple as that.Sometimes ya have to use your eyes along with a meter. we've all been there.
pharm


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:30 pm     Reply with quote

sak12344 wrote:
For what it's worth, I've received the "uneven lighting" rejection on images that were lighted with two power light 1500's, plus umbrellas, where both strobes were metered prior to shooting at the exact same f/stop. The lighting doesn't get any more "even" than that. :)...


Be sure to notice that the rejection does NOT say "uneven lighting". It also could be poor lighting (part of the same rejection notice (too dark, too light, etc.)) or the white balance could have been off. You have to consider each part of that rejection notice and determine which one the reviewer was referring to. Too often submitters pick one of the reasons included in that rejection and don't notice the other possibilities that are mentioned. The best way to figure it out is to post the image in the Critiques forum and let us have a look at it.
ccaetano


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:36 pm     Reply with quote

It is underexposed and lacks contrast and color intensity. If you check the histogram, you'll see that it is more on the left side (no details in the deep shadows).

Adjust levels and saturate selective colors.
Here is my version, if you don't mind.



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studio544


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:24 pm     Reply with quote

Apart from poor lighting i see some purple fringing on the clouds edge. It also looks lifeless.
nirdesha


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:12 am     Reply with quote

ccaetano wrote:
It is underexposed and lacks contrast and color intensity. If you check the histogram, you'll see that it is more on the left side (no details in the deep shadows).

Adjust levels and saturate selective colors.
Here is my version, if you don't mind.


WOW! Very well done :)
 
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