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mounatinpix


Joined: 28 Aug 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Switzerland

Post Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:50 pm     Reply with quote

unfortunately Shevs, this is what you'd expect with customers not being able to buy new OD's on english speaking SS pages now. I hope that SS reinstates OD's before you lose too much money on this.

I received a residual OD yesterday, but I don't expect many more.
nder


Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 431
Location: www.3dstocktalk.org

Post Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:33 pm     Reply with quote

kk5hy wrote:
Does this affect the video side too? I can't find anything there that talks about this.
Not sure how that used to be before, but currently you can't buy a single clip and you need to buy a subscription plan for at least $49 (gets you 5 low res clips).
shevs


Joined: 31 Jul 2008
Posts: 825
Location: Belgium

Post Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:55 pm     Reply with quote

mounatinpix wrote:
unfortunately Shevs, this is what you'd expect with customers not being able to buy new OD's on english speaking SS pages now. I hope that SS reinstates OD's before you lose too much money on this.

I received a residual OD yesterday, but I don't expect many more.


I never expected them to die out THAT soon (OD credits are valid for a year)..but apparentely... ;(
Sure hope this experiment ends soon.
14ktgold


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 409
Location: Holland, MI

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:16 am     Reply with quote

Got 3 today.
mandy


Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Posts: 1650

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:36 am     Reply with quote

I'm still getting the same amount of OD sales as usual. If you average out the amount I've had so far this month over the whole month I am actually selling more than last month.
If other people are seeing the same then maybe that is why not many people are worried about it yet.
kenny123


Joined: 13 Aug 2005
Posts: 3641
Location: Masterton, New Zealand

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:04 am     Reply with quote

How about if OD's are going to be canned, at least can we be compensated by being allowed to submit "real world",Editorial Images, (ie; Images that do not necessarily need to be newsworthy, but can be used by magazines,periodicals, books etc., to inform as per this description:)

"Editorial stock photography is so called because it can give insights into the human condition, events and vignettes. Editorial stock photography shows people doing things, features specific geographical locations and/or gives a real look at every aspect of human activity and the world of nature. Editorial stock photography shows the viewer something that you haven't seen, or touches the viewer in some emotional way.

Editorial stock photography is pretty much the complete opposite of commercial stock photography. Commercial stock photography would be a slick scenic product image that can be used for advertising. Commercial stock photography generally has to conform to what will sell for advertising or marketing needs. The commercial stock photographer engineers their stock photo images to fit into commercial clients' individual needs, trends in the industry, and to appeal to a wider general audience. The resulting photo images are often called generic images because they can fit a variety of uses.

Editorial stock photography images are produced with a different approach. The editorial stock photographer follows his or her own interest areas and targets certain segments of life and culture that they enjoy photographing rather than appeal to the commercial needs of a client. The photographer then sells these photos to markets that use images in those specific subject areas. Buyers in the commercial field of stock photography include designers at graphic houses, corporate art directors, and ad agency creative directors. There is a lot of turnover in these positions, so developing consistent working relationships with these markets is frustrating and difficult.

In the editorial field of stock photography the buyers range from photo editors at books and magazines, to photo researchers. These people are hired by publishers and art directors to seek out highly specific stock pictures so there are fewer turnovers and more longevity with editorial buyers and editorial stock photographers can enjoy strong long-term working relationships with their buyers, which translates to more consistent sales. Model releases are not needed, in most cases, for editorial photos, since their purpose is to educate and inform."

Regards Ken
rinder99


Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 19009
Location: Books and Class Info, www.rindersmithphotography.com or, www.rinderart.com

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:21 am     Reply with quote

I agree Ken.And good forbid it might even include some art Images. Oh heavens.
dzain


Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 2659
Location: The Netherlands

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:29 am     Reply with quote

mandy wrote:
I'm still getting the same amount of OD sales as usual.

me too, I'm over $42 for OD's only this month

but that is normal when till the end of last month OD-subscribtions were sold, till every bought OD is downloaded or expired, we will get OD downloads, but I'm more worried about next month or the next, when they die out (if not quickly reinstated)
photosoup


Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 303

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:54 am     Reply with quote

shevs wrote:
Hoping this is just a diabolic coincidence, but mine have stopped completely.
I have them about every day, and never went longer than 3 days without one in the past months....november, no OD so far despite good download numbers :(


Mine has stopped for 3 days. I never went two days without ODs. There goes my 22% additional income from SS. :(
trialhuni


Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 1

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:41 am     Reply with quote

I had 5 onDemand yesterday :D
peterkozikowski


Joined: 26 Sep 2006
Posts: 806
Location: Nemarket, ON, Canada

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:58 am     Reply with quote

I really don't understand why SS doesn't do anything to clarify the situation, are we that unimportant?
PaulCowan


Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 1529

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:48 pm     Reply with quote

I suppose they don't want the opposition to know what they are up to.

What people do not seem to understand is that if this continues the number of ODs is likely to decline by a modest but significant percentage each month - say 10% to 15% - as they get used up, but that is likely to be hidden by the normal variation in sales for the first couple of months.

In the recent past, a good OD month for me has had double the earnings of a bad one and an average one has been midway between them - it is a huge variation. But that cash will certainly be missed when it all dries up.

Checking the numbers now, this month looks as if the OD earnings will be near the bottom of the normal range (but ELs are up).
miker


Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 267
Location: Minnesota USA

Post Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:24 pm     Reply with quote

kenny123 wrote:
How about if OD's are going to be canned, at least can we be compensated by being allowed to submit "real world",Editorial Images, (ie; Images that do not necessarily need to be newsworthy, but can be used by magazines,periodicals, books etc., to inform as per this description:)

"Editorial stock photography is so called because it can give insights into the human condition, events and vignettes. Editorial stock photography shows people doing things, features specific geographical locations and/or gives a real look at every aspect of human activity and the world of nature. Editorial stock photography shows the viewer something that you haven't seen, or touches the viewer in some emotional way.

Editorial stock photography is pretty much the complete opposite of commercial stock photography. Commercial stock photography would be a slick scenic product image that can be used for advertising. Commercial stock photography generally has to conform to what will sell for advertising or marketing needs. The commercial stock photographer engineers their stock photo images to fit into commercial clients' individual needs, trends in the industry, and to appeal to a wider general audience. The resulting photo images are often called generic images because they can fit a variety of uses.

Editorial stock photography images are produced with a different approach. The editorial stock photographer follows his or her own interest areas and targets certain segments of life and culture that they enjoy photographing rather than appeal to the commercial needs of a client. The photographer then sells these photos to markets that use images in those specific subject areas. Buyers in the commercial field of stock photography include designers at graphic houses, corporate art directors, and ad agency creative directors. There is a lot of turnover in these positions, so developing consistent working relationships with these markets is frustrating and difficult.

In the editorial field of stock photography the buyers range from photo editors at books and magazines, to photo researchers. These people are hired by publishers and art directors to seek out highly specific stock pictures so there are fewer turnovers and more longevity with editorial buyers and editorial stock photographers can enjoy strong long-term working relationships with their buyers, which translates to more consistent sales. Model releases are not needed, in most cases, for editorial photos, since their purpose is to educate and inform."

Regards Ken


Good points. I hope they are not lost in this thread.
bradhughes


Joined: 01 Aug 2009
Posts: 100
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Post Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:36 pm     Reply with quote

Any new news on the OD front?
ajancso


Joined: 18 May 2009
Posts: 394
Location: Brazil

Post Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:10 pm     Reply with quote

I have not had an OD for the past 10 days...something for sure has changed!
 
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