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rox11aries
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:18 am
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The Sydney bridge-other than the sky, if you think this is a good photo, what would be the best method to replace the sky in PS? The Tahiti photo, was taken at the only white beach on the island, Moorea is on the background. Please let me know if either are SS worthy.
(format did not allow be to upload 1005 crop for the Tahiti photo...? )
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digigandalf
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:31 am
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To post more than 3 images, just reply to your own thread and add up to 3 more in each post.
The Tahiti shot is nice but soft in focus. Not really possible to fix unless you have a very large file that you can downsize to 4 MP.
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rinder99
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:36 am
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also, Horizon Is slightly downhill. Sidney Bridge is copyrighted Im pretty sure the opera House for sure.really not worth the time to replace the sky, real tough with all those Little areas. best to do it in camera. You can do a straight blue sky easily though.
marquee off the sky area only, Go to layers,Adj Layer pick Selective color,Pick white On Absolute, Move sliders to make The color you want. flatten and save.
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rox11aries
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:44 am
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also, Horizon Is slightly downhill. Sidney Bridge is copyrighted Im pretty sure the opera House for sure.
Why do I see many photos of the Sydney bridge on this site? I looked it up and it was not on the copyright list, but the Opera house is (not in the photo)
The Tahiti shot is nice but soft in focus. Not really possible to fix unless you have a very large file that you can downsize to 4 MP.
The Tahiti file is 4.7MB, I can give it a try.
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digigandalf
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:49 am
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The Tahiti file is 4.7MB, I can give it a try. |
How many megabytes it is doesn't mean anything for this purpose. If you have a 10 or 12 megapixel image, you could downsize it to 4 MP and it might look sharp enough.
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rinder99
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:37 am
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Maybe it is, Not sure anymore. SS is going through a lot of photos and deleting stuff that was fine a year ago. I would stay away from landmarks and architecture.
But, it's your call. Good luck.
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fraiseap
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:10 pm
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It is actually not that difficult to drop in a sky on a shot like this if you have CS4. Copy the sky as a new layer at the bottom. Duplicate the layer with the bridge on and apply >image>adjustments>threshold. Adjust the slider until the bridge is black but the holes are white. Use a black brush to paint over everywhere that you don't want sky showing through. Then select (magic wand) the black bit, highlight the sky layer and make a new layer mask. there should now be a mask with the outline of the bridge. Invert the mask, Delete the threshold layer, use darken or darker color as a blend mode and reduce the opacity of the sky to taste.
Sounds complicated but it took about 10 mins.
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pharm
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:06 am
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| rox11aries wrote: | | ...(format did not allow be to upload 1005 crop for the Tahiti photo...? ) |
Isn't that the 100% crop immediately above the Tahiti photo?
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digigandalf
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 am
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| pharm wrote: | | rox11aries wrote: | | ...(format did not allow be to upload 1005 crop for the Tahiti photo...? ) |
Isn't that the 100% crop immediately above the Tahiti photo? |
Oh, Perry, hicky picky picky! Next you'll be carping at the mild stretch in accuracy of my title for this shot:
View of Twinsburg, Ohio, from bluffs outside of town
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greenfield54
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:56 am
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| fraiseap wrote: | It is actually not that difficult to drop in a sky on a shot like this if you have CS4. Copy the sky as a new layer at the bottom. Duplicate the layer with the bridge on and apply >image>adjustments>threshold. Adjust the slider until the bridge is black but the holes are white. Use a black brush to paint over everywhere that you don't want sky showing through. Then select (magic wand) the black bit, highlight the sky layer and make a new layer mask. there should now be a mask with the outline of the bridge. Invert the mask, Delete the threshold layer, use darken or darker color as a blend mode and reduce the opacity of the sky to taste.
Sounds complicated but it took about 10 mins. |
Can you teach me how to do it with CS2? Thanks.
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pharm
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:56 am
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| greenfield54 wrote: | | fraiseap wrote: | It is actually not that difficult to drop in a sky on a shot like this if you have CS4. Copy the sky as a new layer at the bottom. Duplicate the layer with the bridge on and apply >image>adjustments>threshold. Adjust the slider until the bridge is black but the holes are white. Use a black brush to paint over everywhere that you don't want sky showing through. Then select (magic wand) the black bit, highlight the sky layer and make a new layer mask. there should now be a mask with the outline of the bridge. Invert the mask, Delete the threshold layer, use darken or darker color as a blend mode and reduce the opacity of the sky to taste.
Sounds complicated but it took about 10 mins. |
Can you teach me how to do it with CS2? Thanks. |
Do it exactly the same way.
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greenfield54
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:30 am
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| pharm wrote: | | greenfield54 wrote: | | fraiseap wrote: | It is actually not that difficult to drop in a sky on a shot like this if you have CS4. Copy the sky as a new layer at the bottom. Duplicate the layer with the bridge on and apply >image>adjustments>threshold. Adjust the slider until the bridge is black but the holes are white. Use a black brush to paint over everywhere that you don't want sky showing through. Then select (magic wand) the black bit, highlight the sky layer and make a new layer mask. there should now be a mask with the outline of the bridge. Invert the mask, Delete the threshold layer, use darken or darker color as a blend mode and reduce the opacity of the sky to taste.
Sounds complicated but it took about 10 mins. |
Can you teach me how to do it with CS2? Thanks. |
Do it exactly the same way. |
Oh I see. Thanks Pharm. I'll try it. I'm thinking of using it on my tabletop images. Sort of photographing the BG and main subject separately. Very convenient to my mind. To get around the problem with unwanted shadows. But I guess I need to keep the exposures at the same settings.
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fraiseap
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:47 am
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Oh I see. Thanks Pharm. I'll try it. I'm thinking of using it on my tabletop images. Sort of photographing the BG and main subject separately. Very convenient to my mind. To get around the problem with unwanted shadows. But I guess I need to keep the exposures at the same settings. |
I wouldn't advise it. As I live in England I get outdoor shots with white/gray sky a lot. That is why I bothered learning to do this. For tabletop there is a danger that it will just look odd. It would be much better to print out the background you want and place it behind the subject during the shoot.
If you are having problems with unwanted shadows it is much better to work out why they are there (eg ambient light in the wrong place or fill light at the wrong angle) and eliminate them.
Just my opinion so see what others think.
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greenfield54
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:31 am
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| fraiseap wrote: | []
I wouldn't advise it. As I live in England I get outdoor shots with white/gray sky a lot. That is why I bothered learning to do this. For tabletop there is a danger that it will just look odd. It would be much better to print out the background you want and place it behind the subject during the shoot.
If you are having problems with unwanted shadows it is much better to work out why they are there (eg ambient light in the wrong place or fill light at the wrong angle) and eliminate them.
Just my opinion so see what others think. |
Well I agree. But I'm thinking that I would have more flexibility but it needs to be done correctly. I use a D1x and the firewire connection does not work. So I need to take out the cf card every shot to see where the shadows fall. The lcd does not help at all. Only the histogram helps but only in exposure. That would ruin my card slot way before its time.
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pharm
Joined: 09 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:17 pm
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| digigandalf wrote: | ...Oh, Perry, hicky picky picky! Next you'll be carping at the mild stretch in accuracy of my title for this shot:
"View of Twinsburg, Ohio, from bluffs outside of town" |
The bluffs? Exactly how far out of town? LOL
You're right, by the way. I'm a bit picky sometimes. For instance, it really bothers me when people post several pictures and there are 3 images, then a 100% crop, then 2 more images, then 2 100% crops of the ones in the first post, etc. It seems in each post there should be one image and one 100% crop, then the next post should contain the next image with it's corresponding crop. I hate having to scroll up and down the page to find the crop that goes with the image, etc. Yes, a bit AR, I know. I just like organization and accuracy. LOL
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