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csystudio
Joined: 02 May 2007
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:50 am
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I would like to buy a new CPU and my main concern is it's performance with post-processing softwares I am using:
1. CS3 and
2. Canon digital photo professinoal version 3.6
What system would you recommend?
RAM?
Video or graphic card memory (which one I need actually)?
32 or 64-bit OS?
What to look at the mother board?
Many thanks in advance |
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thartl
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:47 pm
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Get the best you can afford - there is so much out there and I am not a big computer guru - but I will tell you, I went from 3gb of ram to 8gb of ram running CS4 and I can tell a big difference. The Graphics card was suppose to be equal to my old one, but - well I don't seem to be able to have as many files open as i use to, like 100 is the max I think -
I'd start with processor speed - get something fast, and then go from there. |
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vclements
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 2441
Location: http://www.vdavidclements.com
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:53 pm
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64 bit OS
quad core processor as fast as you can get
at least 6 gig ram
1 gig or better vidoe card - most new cards are PCIe - so make sure the power supply has the PCIe power connector
At least 2 hard drives (preferrably 3 - 1 for OS and software, 2nd for working files, 3rd for swapfile)
All of the above is of no use without a good calibrated display. The display is the most important element in the processing chain - it's what you see and make your decisions based on what you see. |
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klauts
Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:55 am
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| csystudio wrote: |
What to look at the mother board?
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The chipset. And that's the first thing you should look at before looking at how many gazillion Hz your cpu has.
Also memory size on graphics cards is not so important.Look for higher bits capabilities(you'll see prices heavily increase over 256 bits, I wonder why ;) ). Also the memory clock speed of the graphics card is important.
For the actual memory go for the brand. I use Corsair. Unless you're doing 3d with lots and lots of polygons I see no use for more than 4gb right now. |
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csystudio
Joined: 02 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:27 am
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Do you think this will do the work?
OS: Windows 7 (64 bit)
CPU: Core2Duo E8500 (3.16Ghz/6MB/1333MHz)
Graphic: NVIDIA GeForce GT240M GPU (Independent memory of 1GB)
RAM: 4GB (Will there be significant different if using 8GB?) |
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felix_casio
Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1653
Location: www.felixtm.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:52 pm
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I had a pc with 4gb and 3gh processor and it was not able to handle my work flow. I went to a Imac and once you go mac you never go back. |
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csystudio
Joined: 02 May 2007
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:55 am
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| felix_casio wrote: | | I had a pc with 4gb and 3gh processor and it was not able to handle my work flow. I went to a Imac and once you go mac you never go back. |
May I know the spec of iMac you are using?
CPU: 1.Intel Core 2 Duo or 2.Intel Core i5?
Graphic: 1. NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics, or 2. ATI Radeon HD 4670 graphics with 256MB, or 3. ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics with 512MB?
RAM: 4GB?
If for the same RAM of 4GB, Window 7 64-bit with ATI 1GB versus Mac with ATI 256MB (or 512MB), which do you think will be the winner?? |
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jeffbanke
Joined: 18 Dec 2005
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Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:30 pm
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Given that MAc's use the same processors, so the only difference is the system software, it is hard to believe that there would much difference at all between a 32 bit computer running Apple system software and a 32 bit computer running Windows of any variety. If you are comparing apples to apples as it were, meaning identical firmware and hardware :)
However, when one make the jump to 64 bit, all bets are off! You get into different beasts!
32 bit computers are limited to 4 4GB (physically) of RAM, but can only really utilize (address) 3.5 of the memory. When you get to 64 bit computers you move into a different realm, where one can address 16 or more GB of memory. These computers use different chipsets (I/0) which also increases throughput, larger Cache memory futher increasing throughput.
So, just about every parameter that increases a computers throughput is changed for increased speed when going to 64 bit. To go to a 64 bit machine and only put 4GB in it, is like buying a Ferrari, and only putting spark plugs in half of the cylinders :)
Oh you may also find that Adobe CS3 will not run on a 64 bit computer, so check into that also! |
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vclements
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Location: http://www.vdavidclements.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:05 pm
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CS3 and LR both run quite nice on 64 bit.
No worries there. |
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pjmorley
Joined: 15 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:09 pm
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Just use a MacBook. It will be fine. Mine is ;-) |
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csystudio
Joined: 02 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:40 am
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| vclements wrote: | CS3 and LR both run quite nice on 64 bit.
No worries there. |
Many thanks Clements, sound like you are using 64-bit OS. I always love to hear from someone with 1st hand experience.
As for the swap file capacity, how much memory do you spare for it? How much is enough?
After some times of researching, I am now considering a spec as this:
OS: Window 7 Home Premium (to exploit it's 64-bit)
CPU: Core2 Duo 3.16Ghz/6MB of cache/1333MHz of buss speed (Duo is selected considering that most of the time I'll be running 2 applications at the same time (CS3 and Canon digital photo professional), not more, so no need for more core numbers)
RAM: 8 GB
HDD rpm: 7200
Graphics support: 1GB of independent memory
Does anyone think this will work?
or does anyone use the same spec and still find it slow?
Please advice
Many thanks in advance |
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vclements
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Posts: 2441
Location: http://www.vdavidclements.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:05 am
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| csystudio wrote: | | vclements wrote: | CS3 and LR both run quite nice on 64 bit.
No worries there. |
Many thanks Clements, sound like you are using 64-bit OS. I always love to hear from someone with 1st hand experience.
As for the swap file capacity, how much memory do you spare for it? How much is enough?
After some times of researching, I am now considering a spec as this:
OS: Window 7 Home Premium (to exploit it's 64-bit)
CPU: Core2 Duo 3.16Ghz/6MB of cache/1333MHz of buss speed (Duo is selected considering that most of the time I'll be running 2 applications at the same time (CS3 and Canon digital photo professional), not more, so no need for more core numbers)
RAM: 8 GB
HDD rpm: 7200
Graphics support: 1GB of independent memory
Does anyone think this will work?
or does anyone use the same spec and still find it slow?
Please advice
Many thanks in advance |
I still use 1.5 times the amount of ram.
That could probable be decreased.
If budget permits get a 2nd drive and put the swap on that.
I have close to the same set-up.
Windows 7 Home premium - I have no need fro pro.
I have turned off all of the graphics bells and whistles.
I have an AMD-Quad Core.
6 gig ram
1 gig dual display nVidea graphics.
I run LR and CS3 side by side and they run quite nice.
It's a HUGE difference to my old 32 bit XP box with 3 gig ram. |
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supertramp
Joined: 29 May 2005
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Location: I don't know, I'm guessing. :)
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:31 am
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Vince
I'm just about to switch over to Win7 Pro 64-bit and i, too, am a bit worried about being able to run CS3 on it. I like the way it does everything that I need so I really don't want to upgrade. But does it take advantage of the 4 cores and 64 bits?
Systems will be:
Gigabyte MA790FXT Mobo
AMD 955 X4 at 3.2 GHz
Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333GHz 2GBx4 RAM
Hitachi 1TB 32MB cache HD
XFX Radeon 4870 DDR5 1GB Graphics card |
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csystudio
Joined: 02 May 2007
Posts: 61
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:00 am
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| supertramp wrote: | Vince
I'm just about to switch over to Win7 Pro 64-bit and i, too, am a bit worried about being able to run CS3 on it. I like the way it does everything that I need so I really don't want to upgrade. But does it take advantage of the 4 cores and 64 bits?
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According to what I read on the Adobe website, if u are using 64-bit system, the photoshop will make use the extra RAM up to 8GB maximum... so I suppose if what given is true, it sure run faster than in the 32-bit OS since the maximum addressable RAM in 32-bit OS is only 4GB |
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vclements
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:20 pm
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| supertramp wrote: | Vince
I'm just about to switch over to Win7 Pro 64-bit and i, too, am a bit worried about being able to run CS3 on it. I like the way it does everything that I need so I really don't want to upgrade. But does it take advantage of the 4 cores and 64 bits?
Systems will be:
Gigabyte MA790FXT Mobo
AMD 955 X4 at 3.2 GHz
Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333GHz 2GBx4 RAM
Hitachi 1TB 32MB cache HD
XFX Radeon 4870 DDR5 1GB Graphics card |
CS3 runs nice on 64-bit, uses the increased ram, does process 64 bit and takes advantage of multi-core processors
Here's a guy from Adobe:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2006/12/photoshop_and_multicore.html
It's definitely quick. Most things work instantly, the processor heavy tasks are not instant, but super quick compared to 32 bit XP with 3 gig ram - no more gazing at the screen waiting forever for a process to finish |
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