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jammm


Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 6

Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:22 am     Reply with quote

Hi, everyone!

I'm new to Shutterstock and to Illustrator too.
One of my first vectors was rejected, beacause text wasn't converted to outlines. I'll fix this, but dont want to explore all other the rules experimentaly.

Can't fint a list of rules.
Transparency, gradients, some effects, what is allowed and what is not? 3D effects?

Please, help with a list, I think it would be useful for other people.
If there is a list, I'm sorry, but couldn't find it.
Thanx in advance!
toots7777


Joined: 06 Apr 2009
Posts: 4527
Location: Tenerife, Canary Islands

Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:47 am     Reply with quote

Hi and welcome to SS.

Ok, allowed:

gradients linear and radial, transparency and opacity masks (only if saved as eps10 files though), brush strokes have to be expanded as well as any pattern swatch fills. Oh and clipping masks are ok too.

not allowed:

special effects such as drop shadows, blur etc etc as these are raster effects. You have to find a work-around for these. Keep away from effects if not sure whether they will rasterise.

All paths must be closed and strokes turned into fills. Text to be converted to outlines as you said above.

Can't think of anything else at the moment. Maybe someone else will think of some I've missed.

Good luck next time round. Maybe it would also help if you post your next batch for critique before submitting them to SS. We will help you as much as we can.
jammm


Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 6

Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:55 am     Reply with quote

toots7777, thank you so much for answering so quickly! You helped me a lot.
But I have new questions now ;)

Don't you know anything about Effeccts -> 3D -> Extrude & Bevel? As I understood, this can make vector too complicated and isn't recomended?

And what about Multiply, Screen, etc? I have read somewhere here, that these are not allowed in eps8, but maybe something changed for eps10?

About brush strokes. I select an object, drawn with a Brush, go to Object -> Expand and it's inactive, i can only click Expand Appearance. Is it ok? Can't get what's the difference.

And the last question for now "All paths must be closed and strokes turned into fills" This means, that if i have a shape with stroke around I have to turn it into fill or about something else? Please, tell, where is this option it, I cant' find.

Thank You!
toots7777


Joined: 06 Apr 2009
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Location: Tenerife, Canary Islands

Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:17 pm     Reply with quote

jammm wrote:
toots7777, thank you so much for answering so quickly! You helped me a lot.
But I have new questions now ;)

Don't you know anything about Effeccts -> 3D -> Extrude & Bevel? As I understood, this can make vector too complicated and isn't recomended?

3D Extrude and bevel etc - I believe these are allowed, but I've never used 3D in my micro stock designs so someone more qualified in this area maybe can answer this one

And what about Multiply, Screen, etc? I have read somewhere here, that these are not allowed in eps8, but maybe something changed for eps10?

Yep, all those in the drop down box can be used, save as eps10 file though

About brush strokes. I select an object, drawn with a Brush, go to Object -> Expand and it's inactive, i can only click Expand Appearance. Is it ok? Can't get what's the difference.

Use expand appearance (don't forget to take out the spine though - you can see it in outline view or go to your layers panel and you'll see it in there - just delete it after expand appearance)

And the last question for now "All paths must be closed and strokes turned into fills" This means, that if i have a shape with stroke around I have to turn it into fill or about something else? Please, tell, where is this option it, I cant' find.

To turn a stroke into a fill I normally click on flatten transparency and in the dialogue box move the raster/vector balance slider to 100 and leave all the other default settings as they appear in the dialogue box.

An alternative way to make sure that you have fills instead of strokes is to do away with the stroke altogether and just make a slightly larger sized copy of the fill and place this behind your fill. Or select your fill and go to object path offest path and make a larger size of the fill that way by a pixel or two.


Thank You!


Hope the above helps.
toots7777


Joined: 06 Apr 2009
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Location: Tenerife, Canary Islands

Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:28 pm     Reply with quote

Ooops forgot to mention, turning strokes into fills might not be a requirement, however it is good practice to do this as when resizing/enlarging vectors with strokes if they are not filled then they do not resize correctly along with the image. If they are turned into fills they will enlarge properly with the rest of the image.

You imagine a buyer enlarging the vector to double the size or even much much bigger for a billboard poster or to go on the side of a van or bus and the stroke stays exactly like the 1 pixel you've made it, well the stroke would not be very visible if visible at all. That's why I always use fills instead of strokes.

As I said, not sure if it is an actual requirement by stock agencies but it is good practice!!!
akaiser


Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Posts: 2379
Location: Munich

Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:39 pm     Reply with quote

You can use 3d-effects, but you have to expand them as well. They often produce lots of unnecessary nodes, tho, therefor I usually edit them manually and in worse cases sometimes even trace them by hand. Also, make sure to delete all clipping paths within the group (have a look at the layers palette in order to find them - if there's a dark circle besides the group, there are some in), because they can cause trouble whith eps ai8 and especially, if you/the buyer wants to change the object's colors later on.
cscottbsn


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 25

Post Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:23 am     Reply with quote

This is a great thread to keep rolling or sticky at the top. I just tripped over it and it would have helped me much in the beginning. (heck, it helps now)
jammm


Joined: 14 Apr 2009
Posts: 6

Post Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:56 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you all for answering!
It was very useful!
princesszelda


Joined: 21 Oct 2009
Posts: 579
Location: London, UK

Post Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:47 am     Reply with quote

I agree with cscottbsn. Can this be made into a stickie? Useful for me too! :D
toots7777


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Location: Tenerife, Canary Islands

Post Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:09 pm     Reply with quote

As it's not a sticky we will have to keep bumping it:

Bump
princesszelda


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Location: London, UK

Post Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:32 am     Reply with quote

Bump :D
toots7777


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:19 pm     Reply with quote

bump
ecuadorrebel


Joined: 23 Aug 2009
Posts: 456
Location: Quito, Ecuador

Post Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:35 am     Reply with quote

Thought I would bump this up again.
toots7777


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Post Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 9:11 am     Reply with quote

bumping again, it got a bit buried

Bump

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iris42


Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Posts: 625

Post Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:00 am     Reply with quote

I've got a question to bump this up. Been playing around and found tips on how to make the 'glossy button' effect, but it uses the opacity mask in Illustrator. Does that work when saving as illustrator 8 or does it need to be 10? And even if it is 'allowed', is it a 'good idea'? Like how strokes are allowed, but it is better to convert to outline.
 
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