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applecapital

Joined: 14 Oct 2010
Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:54 pm
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Hello - I received a "no bitmaps" rejection and was directed to this article on Shutterbuzz.
I have a Drop Shadow effect in my file. The file is saved as EPS 10.
The above article states:
"Just know that those effects will rasterize no matter what, in EPS-8 and 10."
That is simply not true. The effects will rasterize with v.8, but Drop Shadow is compatible with EPS10. I have closed and re-opened the file, and no rasterization/bitmapping has occurred. Further, I have checked the Document Info and Links panels, and you can see there are no raster elements in the file.
The article also states:
"Special exception for Gaussian and Radial Blur: These effects will bitmap in the artwork without creating embedded or linked images in the palettes. You just need to zoom in on the blurred area to see the pixilation (blocky areas of color, not smooth like the blur is supposed to look)."
This, too, is incorrect. If there are any raster elements in the file, they will show up in the Document Info panel. Period. There are no special "hidden" things that don't appear in Doc Info. What you are seeing when you zoom way in is the pixelization of the on-screen display, not actual raster elements. My Document Raster Effects settings are set to High (300), but even something set to 600 will look pixelated on screen zoomed to 6400%.
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Mike Price

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
Posts: 2919
Location: South Wales
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:01 pm
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I agree with all that you say and have found that when I have used drop shadows, there is no bitmapping when I reopen the EPS 10 file in Illustrator CS3 4 or 5. I wonder however if there is a problem if someone attempts to open the file in an old version of Illustrator or another package.
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applecapital

Joined: 14 Oct 2010
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:24 pm
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| Mike Price wrote: | I wonder however if there is a problem if someone attempts to open the file in an old version of Illustrator or another package.
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I doubt it. That's why SS and other sites require backwards-compatible files like EPS 8 and 10. But even so, the statement "those effects will rasterize no matter what" is still incorrect. The problem would be with someone using 15-year-old software, not with the EPS's we upload. Any and all rasterized elements in a file will be indicated in the Document Info panel. |
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filin7

Joined: 29 Aug 2008
Posts: 259
Location: New York, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:41 pm
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Drop-shadow effect is non-scalable, so it's more like bitmap. I mean, it's scalable just in letter-sized formats. For example, make it for box 3"x3" and re-size it to 180". |
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suwanneeredhead

Joined: 28 Jul 2005
Posts: 1148
Location: Dante's Peak
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:03 pm
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| applecapital wrote: | | Mike Price wrote: | I wonder however if there is a problem if someone attempts to open the file in an old version of Illustrator or another package.
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I doubt it. That's why SS and other sites require backwards-compatible files like EPS 8 and 10. But even so, the statement "those effects will rasterize no matter what" is still incorrect. The problem would be with someone using 15-year-old software, not with the EPS's we upload. Any and all rasterized elements in a file will be indicated in the Document Info panel. |
When opened in legacy versions of Illustrator, Gaussian blur will NOT show up in the Links Palette or in the Document Info panel. It is a known bug. I spent HOURS upon HOURS of time trying to figure that out after being rejected for bitmapping when I had used Gaussian blur. Finally one time the reviewer included a note to state that it DOES bitmap in Illustrator 10 at high magnification, and will cause a problem when a buyer goes to print the image large (as you are supposed to be doing with vectors).
Not only does Shutterstock require the EPS file to be saved back to 8 or 10, they require legacy versions of Illustrator to be able to read it correctly. Some old "mom & pop" print shops are still using old versions of Illustrator and need to be able to print the files without problems. Shutterstock doesn't require the buyers to have the latest version of Illustrator. Do you have Illustrator 10, or CS? If so, open it that way and see what you see in the links palette, or by zooming in, in the case of Gaussian blur. Microstock agencies need to be sure they can serve ALL of their clients, not just the ones with the latest software. |
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