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vanhart
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:33 pm
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luissantos84
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:17 am
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this thread is interesting if we say how many files we got approved in the last year, that may show if was worth the upload, of course it was this SS :D |
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red06
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:44 am
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lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
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luissantos84
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:00 am
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| red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
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red06
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:47 am
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| luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales.I do not believe SS is controlling sales.
I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment.
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luissantos84
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:52 am
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| red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
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red06
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:03 am
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| luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
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margaret
Joined: 01 Jul 2005
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Location: Lancashire, U.K.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:51 am
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Selling lots of older pictures at the moment.. :) |
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luissantos84
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:35 pm
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| red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
ahah so you are basically saying what we all know, we control our sales, earnings, its all about the work :D I agree 100%, if we upload crap we will sell crap, you could have said something like that, would be a lot easier! |
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red06
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:57 pm
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| luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
ahah so you are basically saying what we all know, we control our sales, earnings, its all about the work :D I agree 100%, if we upload crap we will sell crap, you could have said something like that, would be a lot easier! |
woah, I'm definitely not saying that. Your talking about a idealistic free market where everyone gets the same exposure. |
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luissantos84
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:14 pm
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| red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
ahah so you are basically saying what we all know, we control our sales, earnings, its all about the work :D I agree 100%, if we upload crap we will sell crap, you could have said something like that, would be a lot easier! |
woah, I'm definitely not saying that. Your talking about a idealistic free market where everyone gets the same exposure. |
you don´t think its free market here? I kind of do! you upload your best, buyers download more and more, so why not on the first pages? lately I have the feeling newer stuff aint selling much but I guess it has to do with my latest subjects.. |
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red06
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:20 pm
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| luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
ahah so you are basically saying what we all know, we control our sales, earnings, its all about the work :D I agree 100%, if we upload crap we will sell crap, you could have said something like that, would be a lot easier! |
woah, I'm definitely not saying that. Your talking about a idealistic free market where everyone gets the same exposure. |
you don´t think its free market here? I kind of do! you upload your best, buyers download more and more, so why not on the first pages? lately I have the feeling newer stuff aint selling much but I guess it has to do with my latest subjects.. |
I never said it was not a free market. Like all free markets it's not a level field. So it may not be as simple as you put it. Which time would you like your files to get posted. Saturday afternoon or Monday Morning. Would they do the same on either day? does anyone know for sure? What about being randomly in a lightbox does that change things either way? maybe I imagine so. What about having a following of buyers that help push your stuff up the search. I can say that is an advantage that talented newer members don't have no matter how awesome they are.
It is my opinion the rule where "good work' always sells and bad work never does is more a myth. What is good today may not be tomorrow it is trend.
I must stop chatting now and get back to uploading :) |
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luissantos84
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
Posts: 1262
Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:03 pm
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| red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
ahah so you are basically saying what we all know, we control our sales, earnings, its all about the work :D I agree 100%, if we upload crap we will sell crap, you could have said something like that, would be a lot easier! |
woah, I'm definitely not saying that. Your talking about a idealistic free market where everyone gets the same exposure. |
you don´t think its free market here? I kind of do! you upload your best, buyers download more and more, so why not on the first pages? lately I have the feeling newer stuff aint selling much but I guess it has to do with my latest subjects.. |
I never said it was not a free market. Like all free markets it's not a level field. So it may not be as simple as you put it. Which time would you like your files to get posted. Saturday afternoon or Monday Morning. Would they do the same on either day? does anyone know for sure? What about being randomly in a lightbox does that change things either way? maybe I imagine so. What about having a following of buyers that help push your stuff up the search. I can say that is an advantage that talented newer members don't have no matter how awesome they are.
It is my opinion the rule where "good work' always sells and bad work never does is more a myth. What is good today may not be tomorrow it is trend.
I must stop chatting now and get back to uploading :) |
ahah I agree, trend change, everything change, car colors, clothes, computer games, so yep stock doesn´t not have a trend but I find hard to believe a best seller would be a crappy seller tomorrow, as a small earner I have over 30-50% of my sales exact the same day as the day before and it is around all agencies.. |
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red06
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:11 pm
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| luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | luissantos84 wrote: | | red06 wrote: | | lol.... pointless data coming from a controlled environment |
I understand what you mean but I dont think SS is controlling our sales, sure new stuff sometimes don´t sell but I cannot believe that everything new is going under the carpet |
"controlled environment" does not mean controlling sales which I do not think is happening on SS. I control the environment and flow on my site and if you have a profile on a social media you control that environment within a larger controlled environment. |
so basically what do you mean? the searches? |
Environment is everything. Controlling or guiding flow is an important part of controlling an environment online. There are many tools to control flow beside simple searches. I do not believe SS is playing around with the searches.
Think of traffic as multi colored water it is not just important to redirect the water but to help the colors get to the matching colors to better serve both client and seller. |
ahah so you are basically saying what we all know, we control our sales, earnings, its all about the work :D I agree 100%, if we upload crap we will sell crap, you could have said something like that, would be a lot easier! |
woah, I'm definitely not saying that. Your talking about a idealistic free market where everyone gets the same exposure. |
you don´t think its free market here? I kind of do! you upload your best, buyers download more and more, so why not on the first pages? lately I have the feeling newer stuff aint selling much but I guess it has to do with my latest subjects.. |
I never said it was not a free market. Like all free markets it's not a level field. So it may not be as simple as you put it. Which time would you like your files to get posted. Saturday afternoon or Monday Morning. Would they do the same on either day? does anyone know for sure? What about being randomly in a lightbox does that change things either way? maybe I imagine so. What about having a following of buyers that help push your stuff up the search. I can say that is an advantage that talented newer members don't have no matter how awesome they are.
It is my opinion the rule where "good work' always sells and bad work never does is more a myth. What is good today may not be tomorrow it is trend.
I must stop chatting now and get back to uploading :) |
ahah I agree, trend change, everything change, car colors, clothes, computer games, so yep stock doesn´t not have a trend but I find hard to believe a best seller would be a crappy seller tomorrow, as a small earner I have over 30-50% of my sales exact the same day as the day before and it is around all agencies.. |
With vector stock art there is trend. I have some great sellers with over 1000 dls each from the first 2 years and now faded and new ones that have gotten a 1000 in the last 2 years. Art by nature is controlled by trend. The idea of "crappy" is very subjective. I like to think of it as "not useful" images. usefulness and trend is almost more important then "good". |
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luissantos84
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:18 pm
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thats interesting and I agree too, thanks for sharing |
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