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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:22 am
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| pharm wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | | ...Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same... |
Don't watch his videos. Look at his avatar. Does he look like a man you can trust? ;)
In case you missed it, I'm just kidding. I don't know if Laurin has any videos on ND filters but his other videos are good.
Laurin, if you don't have any on ND filters, then get on it! And don't take as long as you did on the portrait book (which I still re-read periodically)! I'm really thinking about firing you! ;) |
Boy it's nice to have others get on Laurin instead of me. Usually its me getting yelled at for not writing the books quick enough LOL So carry on Perry, I will just sit back with my pop corn and watch the show :) |
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ajancso
Joined: 18 May 2009
Posts: 1891
Location: Right Behind You
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:15 am
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As many on this Forum know, I am a big fan of HDR (not everyone is) and have incorporated this technique in basically 100% of my shots, although it is not always obvious when you see the final result. Very often I use parts of the original images and blend them over the processed image so that it does not look "too HDR", whatever that means.
Also, not sure what process you follow and what software you use to merge your images and what software you use for tone mapping, but very often I get different results depending on the software I use. I have found that if there is ghosting or if the images need alignment, it pays to merge using PS and then tone using Photomatix. PS does a much better job. Sometimes what looks like a focus problem, is really an alignment issue. Do you sharpen you images before you merge them? It would be interesting to know what your workflow is.
If you have not already, you should also take a look at HDR efex Pro from NIK. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:58 am
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Ajancso
i own the following tools.
1. Photomatix
2. Photoshop CS5
3. Topaz bundle
4. Onone latest bundle
5. photolooks
6. Lightroom
The process:
i take my raw into light room and convert them to JPG, i do not do any sharpening in light room.
Then i merge the images in Photomatix.
I take the HDR image and normal shots to PS through bridge and do the masking on areas that dont look nice on HDR image.
Once the image is cleaned up i use highpass filter to do the sharpening, i normally use 1.5 to 2 on highpass.
Then i use one of the filters depending on what suits the image.
Then finally i use the denoise from topaz, just the minimum denoise most of the time.
This is my process.
| ajancso wrote: | As many on this Forum know, I am a big fan of HDR (not everyone is) and have incorporated this technique in basically 100% of my shots, although it is not always obvious when you see the final result. Very often I use parts of the original images and blend them over the processed image so that it does not look "too HDR", whatever that means.
Also, not sure what process you follow and what software you use to merge your images and what software you use for tone mapping, but very often I get different results depending on the software I use. I have found that if there is ghosting or if the images need alignment, it pays to merge using PS and then tone using Photomatix. PS does a much better job. Sometimes what looks like a focus problem, is really an alignment issue. Do you sharpen you images before you merge them? It would be interesting to know what your workflow is.
If you have not already, you should also take a look at HDR efex Pro from NIK. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:02 am
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Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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ajancso
Joined: 18 May 2009
Posts: 1891
Location: Right Behind You
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:56 am
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| stealingmomentz wrote: | Ajancso
i own the following tools.
1. Photomatix
2. Photoshop CS5
3. Topaz bundle
4. Onone latest bundle
5. photolooks
6. Lightroom
The process:
i take my raw into light room and convert them to JPG, i do not do any sharpening in light room.
Then i merge the images in Photomatix.
I take the HDR image and normal shots to PS through bridge and do the masking on areas that dont look nice on HDR image.
Once the image is cleaned up i use highpass filter to do the sharpening, i normally use 1.5 to 2 on highpass.
Then i use one of the filters depending on what suits the image.
Then finally i use the denoise from topaz, just the minimum denoise most of the time.
This is my process.
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Why do you convert into jpg before merging? RAW files have much more information and consequently merging RAW (or TIFF) files will give you a better result.
From Bridge, select 3 RAW files and launch " Merge to HDR Pro", select the "Remove Ghost" and then hit the "OK" button. Save the resulting file as a 32-bit HDR file that you can then open in Photomatix and tone map .
See if you get any better results. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:02 pm
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Ok i will do this in the evening when i go home and post the result.
| ajancso wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Ajancso
i own the following tools.
1. Photomatix
2. Photoshop CS5
3. Topaz bundle
4. Onone latest bundle
5. photolooks
6. Lightroom
The process:
i take my raw into light room and convert them to JPG, i do not do any sharpening in light room.
Then i merge the images in Photomatix.
I take the HDR image and normal shots to PS through bridge and do the masking on areas that dont look nice on HDR image.
Once the image is cleaned up i use highpass filter to do the sharpening, i normally use 1.5 to 2 on highpass.
Then i use one of the filters depending on what suits the image.
Then finally i use the denoise from topaz, just the minimum denoise most of the time.
This is my process.
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Why do you convert into jpg before merging? RAW files have much more information and consequently merging RAW (or TIFF) files will give you a better result.
From Bridge, select 3 RAW files and launch " Merge to HDR Pro", select the "Remove Ghost" and then hit the "OK" button. Save the resulting file as a 32-bit HDR file that you can then open in Photomatix and tone map .
See if you get any better results. |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24099
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:23 pm
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| stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:27 pm
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Dave
I want to buy the GND filters, 2 stop soft. i have 24-120 mm Nikkor lens. I have seen the site and i am confused which one to buy. There is p, 4 x6, X-pro. Not sure which one is the best fit for this lens. Need suggestion this pls.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24099
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:35 pm
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| stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I want to buy the GND filters, 2 stop soft. i have 24-120 mm Nikkor lens. I have seen the site and i am confused which one to buy. There is p, 4 x6, X-pro. Not sure which one is the best fit for this lens. Need suggestion this pls.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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If I remember right they make three or 4 different sizes. The ones that most people use are the ones that are called the P series. These fit into a Cokin P holder.
You can get the pro series if you want. Those take a different holder and are meant for the longer lenses often used in nature or wild life photography. They can be used with regular lenses as well if you do not mind spending the extra money. I have used the P series filters on lenses up to 200mm without problem.
Here is the link for the P holder. I am not a big fan of Cokin filters but the P holder is just fine.
http://www.adorama.com/CKBPP.html?gclid=CM7bx4Ty4a4CFeUEQAodLGmMZQ
I would suggest getting a 2 and a 4. The four can be used when there is a wider dynamic range and also if you are presented with a very wide range you can stack the filters together in the holder and make a 6 stop filter. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:32 pm
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Dave
I have ordered the holder from adorama and the P size filter, i should have them before this weekend for my upcoming trip.
This will be my first time use of filters so any tips on how to use and when to use the 2stop soft filter which i ordered will be a great help
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I want to buy the GND filters, 2 stop soft. i have 24-120 mm Nikkor lens. I have seen the site and i am confused which one to buy. There is p, 4 x6, X-pro. Not sure which one is the best fit for this lens. Need suggestion this pls.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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If I remember right they make three or 4 different sizes. The ones that most people use are the ones that are called the P series. These fit into a Cokin P holder.
You can get the pro series if you want. Those take a different holder and are meant for the longer lenses often used in nature or wild life photography. They can be used with regular lenses as well if you do not mind spending the extra money. I have used the P series filters on lenses up to 200mm without problem.
Here is the link for the P holder. I am not a big fan of Cokin filters but the P holder is just fine.
http://www.adorama.com/CKBPP.html?gclid=CM7bx4Ty4a4CFeUEQAodLGmMZQ
I would suggest getting a 2 and a 4. The four can be used when there is a wider dynamic range and also if you are presented with a very wide range you can stack the filters together in the holder and make a 6 stop filter. |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24099
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:19 pm
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| stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have ordered the holder from adorama and the P size filter, i should have them before this weekend for my upcoming trip.
This will be my first time use of filters so any tips on how to use and when to use the 2stop soft filter which i ordered will be a great help
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I want to buy the GND filters, 2 stop soft. i have 24-120 mm Nikkor lens. I have seen the site and i am confused which one to buy. There is p, 4 x6, X-pro. Not sure which one is the best fit for this lens. Need suggestion this pls.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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If I remember right they make three or 4 different sizes. The ones that most people use are the ones that are called the P series. These fit into a Cokin P holder.
You can get the pro series if you want. Those take a different holder and are meant for the longer lenses often used in nature or wild life photography. They can be used with regular lenses as well if you do not mind spending the extra money. I have used the P series filters on lenses up to 200mm without problem.
Here is the link for the P holder. I am not a big fan of Cokin filters but the P holder is just fine.
http://www.adorama.com/CKBPP.html?gclid=CM7bx4Ty4a4CFeUEQAodLGmMZQ
I would suggest getting a 2 and a 4. The four can be used when there is a wider dynamic range and also if you are presented with a very wide range you can stack the filters together in the holder and make a 6 stop filter. |
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Our video that I gave you will give you the basics. The main thing you have to understand is just when to use them. This comes with understanding light and being able to see the difference in the dynamic range between the sky and the foreground.
Remember that these are good for a generally level horizon. If there are lots of jagged mountains etc then it can be difficult to use them properly because you will be changing the exposure reading for something that is not in the brighter area.
Make sure you slide the filter up and down and watch for the filtered area of the filter so it is in the proper place. Remember to keep it right about at the horizon line and the point where the difference in the dynamic range starts. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:24 pm
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Dave
I looked at the video and you said to get the foreground properly exposed first, how is this done. Should i take a sample shot and see how much light i am getting on the foreground and increase my exposure accordingly and once i have the foreground well exposed then i slide the filter to cool down the highlighted sky.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have ordered the holder from adorama and the P size filter, i should have them before this weekend for my upcoming trip.
This will be my first time use of filters so any tips on how to use and when to use the 2stop soft filter which i ordered will be a great help
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I want to buy the GND filters, 2 stop soft. i have 24-120 mm Nikkor lens. I have seen the site and i am confused which one to buy. There is p, 4 x6, X-pro. Not sure which one is the best fit for this lens. Need suggestion this pls.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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If I remember right they make three or 4 different sizes. The ones that most people use are the ones that are called the P series. These fit into a Cokin P holder.
You can get the pro series if you want. Those take a different holder and are meant for the longer lenses often used in nature or wild life photography. They can be used with regular lenses as well if you do not mind spending the extra money. I have used the P series filters on lenses up to 200mm without problem.
Here is the link for the P holder. I am not a big fan of Cokin filters but the P holder is just fine.
http://www.adorama.com/CKBPP.html?gclid=CM7bx4Ty4a4CFeUEQAodLGmMZQ
I would suggest getting a 2 and a 4. The four can be used when there is a wider dynamic range and also if you are presented with a very wide range you can stack the filters together in the holder and make a 6 stop filter. |
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Our video that I gave you will give you the basics. The main thing you have to understand is just when to use them. This comes with understanding light and being able to see the difference in the dynamic range between the sky and the foreground.
Remember that these are good for a generally level horizon. If there are lots of jagged mountains etc then it can be difficult to use them properly because you will be changing the exposure reading for something that is not in the brighter area.
Make sure you slide the filter up and down and watch for the filtered area of the filter so it is in the proper place. Remember to keep it right about at the horizon line and the point where the difference in the dynamic range starts. |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24099
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:22 pm
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| stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I looked at the video and you said to get the foreground properly exposed first, how is this done. Should i take a sample shot and see how much light i am getting on the foreground and increase my exposure accordingly and once i have the foreground well exposed then i slide the filter to cool down the highlighted sky.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have ordered the holder from adorama and the P size filter, i should have them before this weekend for my upcoming trip.
This will be my first time use of filters so any tips on how to use and when to use the 2stop soft filter which i ordered will be a great help
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I want to buy the GND filters, 2 stop soft. i have 24-120 mm Nikkor lens. I have seen the site and i am confused which one to buy. There is p, 4 x6, X-pro. Not sure which one is the best fit for this lens. Need suggestion this pls.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
I have 24-120mm nikon lens, if i have to own my first ND fliter what would be your suggestion.
| hhltdave5 wrote: | | stealingmomentz wrote: | Thanks rinder
I have few non HDR pics will post them tomorrow. I will buy nd filter for my 24-120mm lens and try in my upcoming trip to death vally
Any tips on the ND filter I should be buying, any videos of yours on how to use the same
| rinder99 wrote: | "When I merge my HDR and clean up in PS I make a duplicate image and do high pass filter and do hard mix not sure how good this technique is."
All ya have to do is look.....It's not working. Wanna get accepted?? shoot it straight. Then after your in go crazy if ya want. By a ND grad filter and take One shot. |
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When it comes to ND filters many of us use Singh Ray filters. The ones we use are the graduated ones.
Yes Laurin and I do have a video on the Graduated ND filters for all of you with so little faith! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wfNKZTNb0 |
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Well there are ND filters and then there are Graduated ND filters. The graduated ones are those used when you have a wide dynamic range between the sky and the foreground. The regular ND filters are a total ND where the entire filter is made to filter the entire scene.
The Graduated ones that I use are the Singh Ray filters. They are rectangular and fit in a holder that screws onto your lens. They have different step up rings that can be added to fit the different diameters of different lenses. |
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If I remember right they make three or 4 different sizes. The ones that most people use are the ones that are called the P series. These fit into a Cokin P holder.
You can get the pro series if you want. Those take a different holder and are meant for the longer lenses often used in nature or wild life photography. They can be used with regular lenses as well if you do not mind spending the extra money. I have used the P series filters on lenses up to 200mm without problem.
Here is the link for the P holder. I am not a big fan of Cokin filters but the P holder is just fine.
http://www.adorama.com/CKBPP.html?gclid=CM7bx4Ty4a4CFeUEQAodLGmMZQ
I would suggest getting a 2 and a 4. The four can be used when there is a wider dynamic range and also if you are presented with a very wide range you can stack the filters together in the holder and make a 6 stop filter. |
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Our video that I gave you will give you the basics. The main thing you have to understand is just when to use them. This comes with understanding light and being able to see the difference in the dynamic range between the sky and the foreground.
Remember that these are good for a generally level horizon. If there are lots of jagged mountains etc then it can be difficult to use them properly because you will be changing the exposure reading for something that is not in the brighter area.
Make sure you slide the filter up and down and watch for the filtered area of the filter so it is in the proper place. Remember to keep it right about at the horizon line and the point where the difference in the dynamic range starts. |
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Do an exposure meter reading on the foreground. Make sure you are using a mode that will just read the foreground. Your manual should have a section on how to do an exposure reading. |
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stealingmomentz
Joined: 02 Mar 2012
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:44 pm
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Dave
i bought the singh ray p series 2 grad filter and the coking holder and ring
When i shoot at 24 mm till 34mm i am getting vineting on the exposure. any suggestions |
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hhltdave5
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24099
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:15 pm
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| stealingmomentz wrote: | Dave
i bought the singh ray p series 2 grad filter and the coking holder and ring
When i shoot at 24 mm till 34mm i am getting vineting on the exposure. any suggestions |
That sometimes can be a problem with wide angle lenses. It is basically caused by the wide angle of the lens clipping the corners of the filter holder.
This is less of a problem if you use the pro series system but the extra price is not worth the trade off much of the time, Usually all it takes is not shooting at such a wide angle.
What you can also do is what Laurin and I do and that is to not use the holder at all when using a wide angle lens and just hand hold the filter over the lens. This is really easy when you are using a tripod but more technique and practice is needed to do it shooting free hand.
Here is the FAQ page of Singh Ray that goes into this.
http://www.singh-ray.com/faqmain.html
Here is another site that discusses it. It is just past the half way point down the page
http://www.naturephotographers.net/articles1108/dw1108-1.html |
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