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thinglass

Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Location: Looking for Eeyore
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:01 am
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Given the experience you now have what HD camera would you buy now if you were just starting out as a footage contributor?
(Ordinarily I would give you my budget but I'm trying to work out what I would reasonably be required to spend as a minimum, to meet shutterstock standards, so that I can build the cost into my business plan. In short I don't know how much capital I can get my hands on yet) |
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odesigns

Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA http://www.orlowski.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:29 pm
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Not fully knowing your needs, I'd recommend a DSLR like a Canon 7D or 5D Mark II/III. Those generate great quality that is acceptable to here and other places. Many producers use these. I use a consumer version called the T2i (discontinued).
Good luck!
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thinglass

Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Location: Looking for Eeyore
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:37 pm
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| odesigns wrote: | Not fully knowing your needs, I'd recommend a DSLR like a Canon 7D or 5D Mark II/III. Those generate great quality that is acceptable to here and other places. Many producers use these. I use a consumer version called the T2i (discontinued).
Good luck!
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Thanks for the feedback - both admirable options but what about a non-dslr? And to narrow it down let's say I have a budget of $800 max. Cheers.
(btw odesigns, impressive work in your gallery) |
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pichunter

Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Posts: 755
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:52 pm
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Panasonic TM900 |
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odesigns

Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA http://www.orlowski.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:53 pm
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The T3i (the replacement for my T2i) is in your price range.
But, a decent non-DSLR under $800? That's more of a challenge.
Most "true" video cameras at that price point are going to be the of the basic point-and-shoot variety.
Technically, they'll work, but they won't produce the "artistic" style that so many buyers are looking for these days. (Like shallow DOF).
In other words, video acquired with a sub-$1000 camcorder won't "stand out" from the crowd as much as DSLR footage would.
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pichunter

Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Posts: 755
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:34 pm
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Panasonic TM 900:
3chip
1080 x 60p
auto time lapse
zoom lens 12x with usable optical to 30x
camcorder form factor
full auto or manual
focus tracking
auto focus
no sensor dust |
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thinglass

Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Location: Looking for Eeyore
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:57 pm
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interesting. the tm900 is around $1,100 in the UK and the reviews are excellent. however, it's also still possible to buy a brand new t2i/550d body in the UK for under $800...and i'm into the canon system.
might have to push the boat out for the 5D mark 2 though.
much appreciated pichunter and odesigns |
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odesigns

Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA http://www.orlowski.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:12 pm
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Glad to be of help. Good luck on whatever you decide! |
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pichunter

Joined: 19 Jan 2005
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Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:18 pm
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I have the Canon 7D, Canon 5D MKll and the Panasonic TM700 all great choices, the digital noise for low light is great on the 5D2. |
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rinder99

Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Location: Contact www.rinderart.com/Books and Workshops www.rindersmithphotography.com Youtube/rinder
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:24 pm
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| pichunter wrote: | Panasonic TM 900:
3chip
1080 x 60p
auto time lapse
zoom lens 12x with usable optical to 30x
camcorder form factor
full auto or manual
focus tracking
auto focus
no sensor dust |
I went through 5 cameras starting at the sony EX1, a few DSLRs and finally settled on the panasonic TM900. The extra "Stuff" needed for proper DSLR shooting was a bit much. The screens were useless to me for focus so out come the marshall Monitors and Rail systems and follow focus ETC etc..The EX1 was way overkill for stock at these prices. Im glad I have a camera store that let me test. Best of both worlds would be both systems I assume but just to test the waters and get your feet wet along with the Software learning curve, I had to upgrade to Mac and finalcut [But thats just me] If I did it all over again Knowing what I know now, I would go Camcorder. Damn amazing Image quality.But like everything else especially Video, the world is changing real fast. I have made back my investment X 3 in 9 Months. |
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thinglass

Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Location: Looking for Eeyore
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:43 am
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Thanks Laurin....the TM900 does look good and has also been recommended to me on other forums. nice to see you've made a return on the investment.
I hadn't thought about adding a Mac to my plan at this stage. more to think about. |
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djjuvan
Joined: 03 Dec 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:12 am
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Thinking that 5DmarkII is much better because it's much more expensive is very wrong. I thought too, that after buying a T2i I would go for a 5DmarkII, but when I saw some practical tests of both models, there is not a chance I would ever again think buying 5-times pricier camera. I would rather go for C300 or at least 5DmarkIII, where they finally fixed some moire and skewing. |
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jakerbreaker

Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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Location: Orem Utah
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:01 pm
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Just starting out I would buy a t2i. With the budget you have I would get a kit lens and try to find a decent tripod. I started out with that setup in the very beginning and have now been able to significantly upgrade all my equipment from my stock footage revenues. The t2i is almost identical to the 7D's video capability and if your starting out on a budget that is what I would get for sure. That setup up did very well for me and launched me into the stock footage industry. |
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thinglass

Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Location: Looking for Eeyore
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:19 pm
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thanks jakerbreaker - the t2i might work for me as i have one or two decent lenses beyond the kit lens, but i'm becoming more enamoured with that panasonic.
we'll see. happy shooting. |
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britishstock

Joined: 14 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:09 am
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The Panasonic Lumix GH2 with the 14-140mm lens gets better reviews than Canon DSLR's on pro video forums. There's also a firmware hack that improves the quality. It has an electronic viewfinder, a big advantage for making video clips. I don't like using the rear screen.
I have a Canon 550D that's quite good but I can see problems when making clips of anything with very fine detail. The sea sometimes looks horrible.
If I was buying now, I would go for the GH2, not the 550D. |
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