Welcome, Anonymous (Profile, Private Messages)
Having trouble signing into the forums? Please [ logout ] and log back in.
 Log inLog in 
SEARCH:     » Advanced Search

Shutterstock Photographer Forum Forum Index : Critique / Tips / Tricks :
Island Hotel
Page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic    Reply to topic
Author Message
evaners


Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 6589
Location: NO! We aren't there yet!

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:15 am     Reply with quote

oooh oooh oooh! I like this thread now! Let me add one very small item; when you are saying that there is an extra amount of something, or if you are saying that something is also included, you use the word "too", not "to".

So, the shadows in a photo may be too dark. And maybe that's a problem that I have in my photos, too. See, that's not too hard now, is it?
barnabychambers


Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 264

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:32 am     Reply with quote

Alright then. I have a question. What is the difference between affected and effected?

I have looked this up on the internet before and have never found an explanation that has stuck with me. I worked as an English teacher for a few years and did everything I could possibly think of think of not to be asked this question.
digigandalf


Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 5404
Location: Twinsburg, OH

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:36 am     Reply with quote

barnabychambers wrote:
Alright then. I have a question. What is the difference between affected and effected?

I have looked this up on the internet before and have never found an explanation that has stuck with me. I worked as an English teacher for a few years and did everything I could possibly think of think of not to be asked this question.


"Affect" as a verb means "to influence" or "to make an impact on." As in "That movie really affected me deeply (or shallowly, or whatever)."

"Effect" as a verb means "to cause" or "bring about." "The new rules effected a downturn in morale and productivity." (But it might be better to just say, "they produced a downturn" or even "really did a number on morale."--which is akin to "affected" it. oops.)

So far pretty simple. The sticky part comes when you get to the nouns, where "effect" means "impact" or "influence" ("That movie had quite an effect on me.") and "affect" is restricted to psychology, meaning "emotion" or an emotional response.

So "affected" means "influenced" "impacted" and the like (but it also has a secondary meaning or "pretentious" or "feigned"), and "effected" means "produced" "brought about," or "created." Unless... no, let's not go there.

So how do you remember all that? Beats me. That's the genius of the English language: Keep 'em confused and they'll stay out of trouble! (Not sure how well that's worked.)
cdkeyser


Joined: 22 Feb 2012
Posts: 17
Location: over the moon

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:10 am     Reply with quote

Hmmm... never thought I'd come across this kind of discussion on a photography forum - but I love it!

Allow me, as a non-native English speaker dealing with a lot of other non-native speakers, to add a pet peeve of mine. If only I got a penny for each time someone tells me they are looking forward to meet me... You can't look forward to "do" something; the "to" is a preposition as part of the expression "looking forward to". It does not indicate an infinitive of the verb. So as far as I'm concerned you can look forward all you like, as long as you're looking forward to doing something!


pharm wrote:

I'll add a few: It's not "Walla!", it's "Voila!" (pronounced "vwalla"). The v is not silent (and neither is the w).


Thank you for that example! Although I've never heard it being pronounced as "walla" - up here in Flanders (aka the northern half of Belgium) it is more generally pronounced "valla" (which sounds just as ridiculous, I can assure you!)
ajancso


Joined: 18 May 2009
Posts: 1889
Location: Right Behind You

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:33 am     Reply with quote

I apologize to the OP, but I guess this thread has been permanently hijacked...

Another common mistake is to assume that when a point is "moot" it is excessive or superfluous. Actually, a moot point is one that is open to discussion or disputable.

And how about anxious? How often have you heard that someone is anxious about seeing someone or doing something. Well, unless this person is afraid, anxious is not the right word. It should be happy, excited, etc (et cetera).

Here are a few pairs that also generate a lot of confusion:

- Because and Since
- Farther and Further
- Whether and If
- Lay and Lie
pharm


Joined: 09 Jul 2006
Posts: 9406
Location: Never quite sure

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:04 am     Reply with quote

evaners wrote:
oooh oooh oooh! I like this thread now! Let me add one very small item; when you are saying that there is an extra amount of something, or if you are saying that something is also included, you use the word "too", not "to".

So, the shadows in a photo may be too dark. And maybe that's a problem that I have in my photos, too. See, that's not too hard now, is it?


Love it! I went to the bar and had two drinks, too!

"They're" = "they are"
"There" = location, as in "over there"
"Their" = denotes possession, as in "their house is on fire"

Similarly,
"Your" = denotes possession, as in "your house"
"You're" = "you are"

And finally, let us not forget that a question ends with a question mark, not a period. English is such a wonderfully complex and maddening language! ;)
jeffbanke


Joined: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 17463
Location: www.xlr8photo.com, The real California

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:11 am     Reply with quote

Why stop there?
words that sound alike:
Weather and Whether
been (when correctly pronounced and not like bin) and bean

Words closely related but with different meanings
component, composite and composition

or words with multiple meanings like:
compound; meaning a combination of elements
or compound; meaning an enclosure containing a building

Concourse
1. A coming together
2. A crowd
3. large place for assembling or passage of crowds

There are hundreds of these, isn't the English language wonderful? :-)

Of course there are also then the differences between English - English, and American (meaning the US and not to slight the rest of the American peoples) English,
where one has adopted the common use of one meaning of a word with multiple meanings, and the other has adopted a second meaning of the same word, the most humorous of these is of course the use of "lift" and "Elevator".
Brits adopted the french word for a vegetable: Courgette, while the US adopted the Italian word: Zucchini

And the list goes on, making it the hardest language to understand, as we have rules, but then there are the exceptions, which makes it a bit like photography in that one needs to understand the rules, and then know when to break them :-)
cdkeyser


Joined: 22 Feb 2012
Posts: 17
Location: over the moon

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:39 am     Reply with quote

jeffbanke wrote:
Why stop there?
words that sound alike:
Weather and Whether
been (when correctly pronounced and not like bin) and bean


Which and Witch
(never trust spellcheck on that one!)

jeffbanke wrote:

Words closely related but with different meanings
component, composite and composition


Diary, dairy, diarrhea
VERY important to get that one right! :D
hhltdave5


Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 24065
Location: Our Stock, Food & Portrait photography books at www.rindersmithphotography.com

Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:22 pm     Reply with quote

Or how about words that are spelled exactly the same but mean two different things such as Polish (having reference to Poland) and Polish (to shine something or a polishing agent).

And what about flammable and inflammable? They both mean something that can be set on fire.
 
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic Page 2 of 2 All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page Previous  1, 2

 


Shutterstock Forum for Contributors